http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=592526

This is getting a little rediculous folks

Adam H 



On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:48:30 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think we are down to insults here. I have not made any statements
> about men in general. Or about doctors in general, for that matter,
> except that the best ones are usually those that claim to know the
> least :)
> 
> As a matter of fact I have read most of what is online about this
> case. Have you?
> 
> All I can say is that the 33 affidavits by MDs -- most of them
> neurologists and rehabilitation specialists -- do carry quite a bit of
> weight in my eyes, and they were not not allowed to be entered as
> evidence. Now if you'd rather act like Carl Rove and call me names, go
> ahead. I don't know that she doesn't want to die, but neither do we
> know that she does. Don't you think it would be a good idea to err on
> the side of caution?
> 
> Dana
> 
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:21:35 -0500, Jerry Johnson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, you definitively have your opinion. I can see it will not change. You 
> > have very strong opinions on the evils of the medical profession, the evils 
> > of men, and the evils of suicide.
> >
> > She is a poor, healthy woman being killed by her mean, evil, money grubbing 
> > husband. Which I have to say I think is a load of [EMAIL PROTECTED] As do 
> > most people.  There isn't anything in a decade that indicates anything but 
> > brain-death. You may not want to believe that, but it really doesn't matter 
> > what you (or I) believe. The husband is the one with the right to make that 
> > decision. The courts have consistently backed that up. It's all over but 
> > the starvation at this point.
> >
> > She can certainly divorce her husband. Just get her to fill out a divorce 
> > certificate and sign it. Oh, right. She can't. And no, her parents can't 
> > file the divorce for her. Which is a good thing, or a lot more people would 
> > be divorced if it was up to the in-laws.
> >
> > Why do you think she doesn't want to die? Have you talked to her about it? 
> > Do you know her better than all of the people who testified before a judge 
> > who ruled it to be her wish? If I had the choice of laying in a hospital 
> > bed for a couple of decades rotting or going to "meet my maker", there is 
> > no doubt which I would choose.
> >
> > Can you list for me every single doctor and medical test that she has gone 
> > through in all the years? Can you absolutely say that the medical care she 
> > received upon hospitalization was subpar? Or are you saying the hospital 
> > and all the doctors are in on it with the husband? What about the original 
> > lawsuit the husband won? Don't you think the defense might have looked into 
> > her health during the case? Or are they in on it too?
> >
> > And finally, what do you mean there is no good evidence? Are you qualified 
> > to make that call? Have you seen all the medial evidence? Have you examined 
> > her? I haven't either, but medical professionals (who I do mostly trust) 
> > with no stake in the case have consistently reviewed the evidence and 
> > concluded she is in a persistent vegetative state. There isn't a whole lot 
> > of controversy on it, from what I have read. Are they ALL liars? To me it 
> > sounds a lot like the creationist argument that if you can find 1 
> > "scientist" to back your view it is just as scientifically viable as any 
> > other view, regardless of the preponderance of opinions to the contrary.
> >
> > Jerry Johnson
> > Web Developer
> > Dolan Media Company
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/05 07:07PM >>>
> > Consider that maybe she doesn't want to die and doesn't have to be the
> > way she is. We don't know because her husband hasn't bothered to find
> > out. The issue here is that the lower court is traditionally the
> > finder of fact, and so you can only appeal on procedural grounds. But
> > the case is fundamentally wrong. Nobody should have to fight like this
> > to make sure that good medical care is available to anyone. I would
> > not be arguing this if there were an opinion in from a neurologist
> > based on an MRI.
> >
> > Look at it this way, even Scott Peterson is going to get his appeals.
> > But Terri Schiavo does not because of a catch-22 -- she can't divorce
> > her husband because he is trying to kill her and he can try to kill
> > her cause she can't divorce him.
> >
> > But hey, with sufficient media repetition that someone's life is not
> > worth living, I guess it all becomes good. I am beginning to
> > understand rants about the media. There is no good evidence that this
> > woman is in fact in a vegetative state. I got more diagnostic care
> > than she did when I went to the ER with a headache for chissake.
> >
> >
> 
> 

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