> Can't you accept the fact that if charges are made there's a > possibility he's guilty?
Can't you accept the fact that our legal system is supposed to be based on the presumption of INNOCENCE? I mean I know it's tough, what with trial by media and all, but that is supposed to be the basis of our legal system, no? > Even if it's a small possibility, it's still > there. Even if the "small possibility" is there, we must presume INNOCENCE until the preponderance of evidence PROVES guilt. > Like Dana says, it's very hard to tell who's an abuser but if > someone has charges against him or her, let's have a look. Still > innocent until proven guilty, but you seem to be saying there's no way > he could be an abuser. And what you _seem_ to be saying is if he hadn't done anything wrong there wouldn't be a charge. The flaw in that thinking is that it presumes that only those who are guilty are ever charged with a crime, and that just isn't the case. By all means, please investigate. Get to the bottom of it. But presume innocence during. After all if he is guilty, there'll be plenty of time for self congratulation, right. Gruss hasn't said there's "no way [Schiavo] could be an abuser." He's saying that there isn't (unfortunately) an empirical checklist we can go by, if-this-then-this. We have a metric pant-load of "if-this-maybe-this-but-then-again-maybe-not." But nothing more... -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:154118 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54