I missed the scouring of the Shire too especially since he did have that incredibly long-winded farewell.
But does Bombadil show up as Bombadil? I thought he was a renamed Green Man. Dana On 7/6/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heretic. Burn him. > > that said you need to read the books to really understand how it hangs > together. Also remember Tolkien was writing as one of the most > significant folklorists/linguists/experts at dark ages and medieval > English at the time. Almost everything in LOTR has a basis in that. > The Ents are fundamental part of the fabric of the story. Tolkien's > commentaries and other works confirm it. > > As for the damned - that was the only way they could gain rest was > fulfilling their oath. They could not die until then because Isildur > cursed them when they refused to participate in the earlier Ring war 2 > or 3 thousand years before. The only way they could fulfill their own > was to respond to the summons of Isildur's heir. > > Generally I am disappointed that Jackson did not include either Tom > Bombadil or the Scouring of the Shire. I can understand why he did not > include the Tom Bombadil sideline - it was tacked on as an > afterthought almost according to Tolkien's son and continuator. > Moreover it did not really fit in to the rest of the tale. Bombadil is > a figure from very old English legends, going back to about the same > time as Beowulf. > > As for the Scouring of the Shire, as far as I am concerned that should > have been done, at least to show how much the four hobbits had grown > (literally and metaphorically). Also there's something to be said > about watching little people beat the crap out of each other. (Bet you > can't get that reference Jim ;). It also provides a good denouement > for the trilogy, and wraps things up in a way that was believable and > simply worked very well. > > larry > > On 7/6/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess by "purists" you mean the book readers who are looking for a > > straight on-screen interpretation. In that aspect, I agree. If that's how it > > unfolds in the book, it should be done as such on screen. > > > > But us non-fantasy folks shake our heads when such silly tricks are used to > > shore up the plot. Tolkien couldn't figure out how to destroy Isingard (i > > think i have that name right, with butchered spelling i'm sure) using > > believable aspects/characters of the story, so he invents walking trees to > > do it. I know such things are the life-blood of fantasy story > > telling....which I guess is why I'm not a fan of it. > > > > A similar trick was used at the end of Return of the King, with the ghost > > warriors. Why would a ghost, who can't be killed, be reluctant to fight a > > battle to regain their honor? Makes no sense....the ghost warriors should > > have been flesh-and-blood outcasts risking real life and limb to regain > > their standing. > > > > All and all though i really enjoyed the movies, which is a testament to > > Jackson. Aragorn was one of the best developed, written, and acted > > characters i've ever seen on screen.... > > > > > True, folks like me would have had kittens. Especially since the Ents > > > were key to defeating Saruman and allowed >Aragorn to recover the > > > palantir. > > > > > > But I think you were being hasty announcing their war ;) > > > > > > Russel > > > > > >>I'm not really sure how they could have the Ents any more believable, > > >>but the purists would have been up in arms had they left the Ents out > > >>of the story. > > >> > > >> > > >>On 7/6/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:163100 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
