Oh I don't think so. This might be splitting hairs but....

1) Free will means that you are not drawn by a destiny to make certain 
choices
2) Liberty means you have the freedom to act on those choices

You cannot debate the fact that we are born with freewill. Once you begin 
discussing "liberty", well, now you are onto the man-made application of our 
inherent freewill, which is a different concept all together if you ask me.

> The concept of liberty is the same as free will.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:07 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Why CIA Permantly Hurt By Plame Leak
>>
>> Liberty is not really God-given as the concept of liberty is man-made.
>> God gave us free will...
>>
>> <g>
>>
>> --- On Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:44 AM, Nick McClure scribed: ---
>> >
>> > Liberty is not a god given right?
>> >
>> > Our Government is founded on the principle that it is.
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 

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