oh I think it is a *right*, it just is not respected everywhere. Nelson Mandela *always* had a right to be free, but it didn't keep him from spending twenty years in jail.
Dana On 7/28/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even if locked in a cell for 20 years, I'd rather have free will than > not. Ask Mandela if he would agree (he has said he does). > > Free will is not something that can be taken (easily). It is something > that can be given up, though, which is a shame. That is the major > problem I have with many organized religions. > > Liberty is something that can be taken at almost any time. It is also > something to fight for. > > If you are talking about liberty in the sense of movement, choices, > etc. then I agree that man is born with those rights.. But if you are > talking about liberty in the sense of voting (which is a societal > construct), land ownership, etc, then that is not a divine or natural > right but a man-given societal right. > > I think. > > On 7/28/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What good is one without the other? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:167008 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54