+1000 I grew up in a different country and went through a somewhat different system. Canada has no pledge of allegiance, and much looser church and state laws. But here there seems to be far more intrusions in the educational process by groups that really have no real legal, or in my opinion, moral right to be involved.
It is to society's benefit to sponsor education. Its also to its benefit for the individual to have the right to withdraw from society's sponsored education. But to what extent do outside groups, such as church's and political groups of all stripes, have the right to interfere? At this stage now, we consider that we cannot legislate morality and ethics. Nor that it is right for the public/government to rule and regulate religions, reasoning in part that it is somewhat beyond the public sphere of action. So shouldn't it also be the other way, shouldn't religion keep its collective nose out of public matters? If a group feels otherwise, they do have the right to withdraw from the educational system, and teach their kids whatever they want. But why should they inflict thier idea of morality and religion on public education? larry larry On 9/14/05, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I see the flag as representing the ideas behind America and > its government as designed and structured, if that makes sense. That > is, I respect and love our nation and gov't, if not the current leaders > or changes to it. I'm a little wary of the phrase "American values" > because (and this is my own knee-jerk reaction) it smacks of Family > Values and Christain Morality and other things I think the government > should stay the hell away from. > > So, no, I'm not pledging allegiance to W and his cronies. I'm pledging > it to the ideas that mean we can choose those who represent and govern > us, even if we occasionally really botch the decision. Twice. > > --Ben > > Gruss Gott wrote: > >>Brian wrote: > >>"Breaking News: Federal Judge delcares it unconstitutional to recite pledge > > > > > > Does anyone else find it odd to be pledging allegiance? > > > > I suppose we can draw a line between American government and American > > values, but that's a fuzzy line. So do we say the flag represents > > American values, American Gov't, or Americans? > > > > If it represents the gov't then I'm not pledging allegiance because > > we're governed by morons (yes, both parties). > > > > In the end, though, I only really have allegiance to my family. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:174188 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
