What I am telling you is that it won't ever be done right in any incarnation of our current educational system. You may have been talking about that one post... I am talking about the absence of any sensible argument why not, from you or anyone else. Between your indignation over "bashing corporations" and the local indignation over some non-existent threat to property rights, I am starting to look around for Karl Rove and wonder what everyone is *really* afraid of. Also, quit calling the minimum wage a subsidy. It's a price floor. A better analogy would be not making Abe Lincoln's dad sell his crops at a loss. Dana
On 9/30/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dana wrote: > > yes you did, scroll up ;) > > No, silly, I didn't mean *ever*, I just meant in that one post. Jeez. > That took *enough* restraint. > > > Also, education didn't have squat to do with the Industrial Revolution, > > which is generally credited to the concept of the division of labor. > > True, but we're talking about 2 different things. It was education > that turned the country into a meritocracy. That is, a po' kid from > the sticks could use the gov't infrastructure (k-12, roads, phones) to > become a millionaire. For example, an Iowa farm boy was able to go to > Harvard and become CEO. Previous to the infrastructure that wasn't > possible and a semi-plutocracy existed (both bus & gov't). > > This gets to the core of our disagreement. Back then an analogy to > your current solution would have been to try to keep the kid on the > farm by subsidizing his corn. My solution would've been the > infrastructure and education he used to become CEO. > > It's easy to criticise our educational infrastructure, but it was > built to give that farm boy a chance in the big city; not for today's > world. > > As to private vs. public, I could care less; it's the *infrastructure* > that's important. That is, setting standards and measuring results > but also providing cell phones, WI-Fi, and top universities. Who does > the k-12 teaching is irrelevant, as long as it's done right. > > Which brings us to where we agree: the gov't can't manage anything; > not money, not education, not disasters. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:175588 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
