Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

I could actually respect an honest debate. It seems possible that if
sufficient forces were committed, the country could be secured. Of
course you have to wonder if enough forces are physically and
politically available, but there MIGHT be a case to be made.

However the administration is not making it. Cheney of the five
deferments is calling veterans with combat experience and decorations
for bravery vile names because they dare question his strategy.

It is to retch.

Dana

On 11/21/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sam wrote:
> > movement. Seems like the press is helping us lose. I'm not saying
> > ignore what happened but it was a minor story spun into a major abuse
> > story.
> >
>
> Policy is not about right and wrong, it's about speculation and debate.
>
> The Bush policy has been to stay the course, do nothing different.  If
> we judge progress by deaths and public perception, this is a losing
> policy.  The 2nd 1000 Americans died faster than the first and 40+% of
> Iraqis think attacks on Americans are justified.
>
> Mr. Murtha's suggestion is that it's our presence that is causing the
> war and that by pulling back to a extra-border position we'll
> accomplish a few things:
>
> 1.) Remove a target and recruiting tool for disaffected Muslims
> 2.) Force the Iraqis to provide security for themselves.
> 3.) Relieve American troops and prevent more American deaths.
>
> This is, of course, speculation.  However the only responsible
> response is to say why the Administation's course will result in a
> different outcome.  Which they're not.
>
> If you always do what you've always done you'll always get what you've
> always gotten.
>
> 

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