It's the middle part of Long Island right? I suspect that it was
counted as urban, yes.  This is one of the hypotheses that are
considered in that article, which I don't consider definitive by the
way, just apparently well-researched.

As for Latins... well. Remember that I worked in the Democratic phone
bank for New Mexico. This does not correspond to my experience here.

What I saw was that the Hispanics in the cities were overwhelmingly
Democratic and planning to vote, but neither side called them much and
a lot of those votes were lost by unannounced changes in the precinct
boundaries. Why this happened in a state with a Democratic governor
and a city with a Democratic mayor confuses me, but that is the way it
looked from here. Outside of the cities the very traditional Hispanic
villages were very swayed by arguments about abortion and integrity
(gag) and were quite hostile. That sort of 300-year-old Hispanic
village does not exist outside of New Mexico as far as I know though
so I am not sure you can extrapolate.

Amongst Anglos, the very affluent areas were heavily Republican as you
wold expect weapons engineers to be. The university community was
overwhelmingly Democratic and almost universally cast absentee ballots
in order to leave a paper trail, because of concern about the voting
machines. Just enough of the absentee and provisional ballots were
disqualified to carry Albuquerque.

You can say that the pollsters made massive mistakes but I find that
statistically unlikely  and very different from what I heard talking
to people.

Dana

On 1/4/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I glanced at the article, but here's an idea. Nassau County is a
> suburb of NYC yet it's now self-dependent and with a pop of 1.3 m is
> bigger than most cities in the US.
> A lot more of the Latino votes went to Bush than was expected. Also we
> now know the exit polls were loaded by mostly polling woman and
> minorities
>
>
> On 1/4/06, Dana wrote:
> > I was looking for a nice simple reference for the Kerry/urban link and
> > only found this. Assuming this gentleman has his facts right the
> > cities were expected to go for Kerry but in fact went for Bush,
> > perhaps because suburbs were counted as urban, perhaps for more
> > sinister reasons. I personally believe, based on what I saw here, that
> > there was massive fraud in this election, but that is not my point in
> > posting this, just that this analysis, which seems pretty detailed and
> > researched, says that the cities did not go Kerry.
> >
> > http://www.retropoll.org/web_of_circumstance.htm
> >
> > Dana
> >
>
> 

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