not really, do you watch taxi cab confessions?
On 1/11/06, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have met some of them. I drove a cab at night in the DC area for > years. You'd be amazed the things people tell taxi drivers. > > Dana > > > The point you make about young-inner city boys is exactly right - they don't > > feel that they matter, so why does anybody else? This is the exact kind of > > thinking that brought about such incidents as the LA Riots after the Rodney > > King trial. > > > > - Matt > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:10 PM > > Subject: Re: Next in line to be labelled Dictator by America > > > > > > >I saw that. I did not engage as I was not sure if their misreading was > > > due to people not having the time to read/write complicated thoughts > > > or what. Let's see if I understood you: > > > > > > The post-Katrina fiasco was an illustration of what happens when > > > people with few or no resources lose the ones they had. In other > > > words, the people who has no car to get into and no stockpile of food. > > > A day or so into Katrina it didn't matter if you had cash as the > > > stores were for the most part closed. Ergo if you wanted to feed your > > > kids you had to go into a store and take stuff. I do not excuse the > > > people taking televisions. But in that sort of apocalyptic scenario I > > > suspect most people here would do something not too different. > > > > > > OK so you extrapolate from here to say that people who depend on > > > government support will become violent if this support is withdrawn. > > > Right? I don't think I agree with you, because the withdrawal will not > > > happen in this same catastrophic manner and people would have a chance > > > to make alternate plans ot have plans made for them :) At least one > > > would hope so. > > > > > > But it is true that some of the scariest people in inner city DC are > > > the people, mostly young teenaged boys, who are smart enough to see > > > the ways they are getting screwed by the system. And some of them > > > figure that if they don't matter then nobody else does either. > > > > > > So I don't agree with you exactly but I don't think you position is > > > idiotic. Bear in mind that the people who said it was also think there > > > is no relationship between the American and the French revolutions :) > > > > > > > > > On 1/11/06, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Thanks, Dana. I've been called an idiot today for saying this. You may > > >> not > > >> agree with everything I have to say, but at least you're willing to have > > >> an > > >> adult discussion. > > >> > > >> - Matt > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:05 PM > > >> Subject: Re: Next in line to be labelled Dictator by America > > >> > > >> > > >> > people who are hungry will have few reservations about stealing. Works > > >> > for > > >> > me. > > >> > > > >> > On 1/11/06, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> Ugh, I mistyped and there's all kinds of confusion. > > >> >> > > >> >> I meant that there was a lack of basic substanence for people after > > >> >> Katrina > > >> >> hit New Orleans. A lack of basic substanence due to the lack of means > > >> >> to > > >> >> leave the area led to a rampant looting and crime. My example was > > >> >> meant > > >> >> to > > >> >> convey that a lack of welfare for people would lead to the same thing > > >> >> in > > >> >> the > > >> >> US. People who are hungry will kill others for the ability to eat. > > >> >> Hence a > > >> >> welfare system's purpose is not only there to provide food to the > > >> >> needy, > > >> >> it's necessary to help keep people from killing each other for the > > >> >> necessities of life. It's the basics of poverty, Mazlo's Hierarchy of > > >> >> Needs. > > >> >> > > >> >> - Matt > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> From: "Tim Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >> To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> > > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:29 AM > > >> >> Subject: RE: Next in line to be labelled Dictator by America > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Other than the fact that the statement isn't true. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > NO happened in a country with a welfare system. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- > > >> >> >> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:26 AM > > >> >> >> To: CF-Community > > >> >> >> Subject: Re: Next in line to be labeled Dictator by America > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Then what you meant was not what you said... "I think that > > >> >> >> Gruss doesn't realize that a country without a welfare > > >> >> >> program is going to be run over by criminals killing others > > >> >> >> for gain. Case in point: New Orleans" > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That's pretty clear to me. Said another way: "New Orleans > > >> >> >> is an example of what would happen in a country without a > > >> >> >> welfare program". > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> -Cameron > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> On 1/11/06, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> >> > I'm confused... I thought I knew what I meant. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > - Matt > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> >> > From: "Cameron Childress" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >> >> > To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> > > >> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:52 AM > > >> >> >> > Subject: Re: Next in line to be labelled Dictator by America > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > No, your example was actually that all hell broke out when the > > >> >> >> > > welfare program (not law and order) was removed in New Orleans. > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > -Cameron > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > On 1/11/06, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> >> > >> The example that I meant to convey was the rampant looting > > >> >> >> > >> after > > >> >> >> > >> the hurricane and the flooding. Although not a nice > > >> >> >> place before > > >> >> >> > >> hand, the lack of law and any assistance led to the grave > > >> >> >> > >> conditions there. > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> - Matt > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> >> > >> From: "Cameron Childress" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >> >> > >> To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> > > >> >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:55 PM > > >> >> >> > >> Subject: Re: Next in line to be labelled Dictator by America > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > On 1/10/06, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> >> > >> >> I think that Gruss doesn't realize that a country without a > > >> >> >> > >> >> welfare program is going to be run over by criminals > > >> >> >> > >> >> killing > > >> >> >> > >> >> others for gain. Case in > > >> >> >> > >> >> point: > > >> >> >> > >> >> New Orleans > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:191913 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
