BethF- Amen to that! -Ben
-----Original Message----- From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:30 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Religious argument in the US... Why? Ben, I have a friend who absolutely agrees with this - evolution was begun by god and the "six days" are relative to him and not to us. I thought this was an intelligent and enlightened view of his religion!! --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy) Anchorage, Alaska ----- Original Message ----- From: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:45 AM Subject: RE: Religious argument in the US... Why? > Re: "literal 6-days of creation" - I once got a great explanation on that > from a wonderfully wise, witty Rabbi. I asked how he reconciled "6 days" > with the evidence of the age of the earth being billions of years and life > in many millions. > > He said "tell me, Ben - how long is one day in the lifetime of God?" > > That one question made me realize how applicable is the phrase "everything's > relative" and taking things literally that were perhaps meant to be > metaphorical may not be correct. > > -Ben > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:26 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Religious argument in the US... Why? > > > Exactly, and to paraphrase Howard's excellent post, as my girlfriend is > fond of saying, what else can you expect from a country founded by > Puritans... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Here's my take, FWIW. > <snip> > > > > For the record, not all creationists believe in a literal 6-days of > > creation. To believe God created the Heavens and the Earth is not to throw > > out all science and all evidence of evolution. What many people object to > is > > the teaching of evolution, with no push or guidance from a creator -- a > > godless evolution, as a form of intellectual dishonesty (evolution is, > after > > all, just a theory), > > The majority of creationists don't even believe in the Christian God > either. Which creationist theory shall we teach? > http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mreligio.html > This page shows almost 2 billion Christians worldwide, with Atheists at > 1.7 billion, and the rest of the religions having about 2.3 billion > followers. Christians win but are still in the minority of humans. > > I can see it now, "Class there may be some higher being out there, but > we don't know where, who, how, or what it is, but it might be there. We > may figure it out when we DIE, depending on which theory you believe in > though. Please write a 2 page report for homework." There is nothing to > teach. Either you believe or you dont. Promoting faith is what the > church does, not school teachers. I succinctly remember my science > teachers saying that some people do not believe in evolution. What else > would you have them do? > > Evolution is not a theory. Many may believe that evolution in human's is > theory, but to totally ignore the huge amount of scientific data that > proves that every other form of life on earth evolves is extremely > narrow minded. I'm not even going to argue this point. > > Perhaps it's this kind of narrow mindedness is why secularists want to > keep religion out of their lives. You said it yourself, Darwin wasn't so > sure that there was not a God. He was open minded. Believing in a power > that has not been observed by any human instrument, while discarding > facts that have been proven, is not open minded. There is a chance > creationists are right, but they are definately not open minded about > it.That's not to say that there is no higher being, it just shows that > there is nothing to teach. There are no facts. > > You also leave out the fact that not all creationists believe that > evolution and creationism are incompatible. > > > jon (active-minded ;-)) > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
