"God is dead" - Friedrick Nietzsche "Nietzsche is dead" - God
Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions 1900 S. Highland Avenue, Suite 200 Lombard, IL 60148 630-627-5055 x-136 630/627-5255 Fax ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick McClure To: CF-Community Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: RE: Religious argument in the US... Why? Which to me is a flaw. So when you say "our temporal understandings are irrelevant", please speak for your self. To me my "temporal understandings" are relevant, for to believe, or even trust something, there has be something tangible I can use, A book of stories, (meaning no disrespect here), is not good enough for me. To say that God lives out side of the Universe is fine, but I want to know and understand where that is, what that is and where it came from. To say it is just there and mere mortals cannot understand it is not giving people the credit they deserve. You may be scared to try to understand it, afraid of what it may prove or disprove. You may not care to understand it, you have better things to do. But never say that man cannot understand things. At some time we will eventually learn to understand everything. That may be a sad time, or a happy time, but it could soon come. At 02:01 PM 2/6/2002 -0800, you wrote: >The problem with this question is that outside of this universe, there is >no "from." God, as the Bible teaches, and I believe most if not all other >religions, is an eternal being. This means no beginning nor an end. > >If God created the universe, he must exist outside of it. Outside of the >universe, must be a place where our temporal understandings are irrelevant. > >What we know about God and eternity, in comparison to the reality, is but >a thimble of water in the oceans of the world. > >It is fruitless to try and fully comprehend the full nature of God with >such limited knowledge. There is no way for us, with our relatively >limited ability, to comprehend God or eternity. > >The universe is a place of time and space. We know it has a definite >beginning. That is has operated by the same rules of physics and chemistry >for billions of years, and from our limited perspective this will never >change. But God is outside of all that. It is a totally different reality >from what we can understand. > >All of this, of course, departs from what we can know empirically. All we >can know empirically is that the universe had a beginning. And all >beginnings have a cause. We can only speculate about what that cause is >and that is where faith comes in. > ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
