I'm just saying there were two differing opinions even then, in all circles.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:45 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Republicans Looking Strong
>
>
> Really? Everything I was reading _at the time_ said that it was not
> going to work out like Bush et al had planned. They pointed out that
> what is happening now is _exactly_ why Bush Sr did not press in the
> first Gulf War. He and his advisors predicted exactly this outcome.
>
> I also remember the military top commanders stating they needed WAY
> more troops to accomplish and hold than Rumsfeld was allowing, hence
> the spate of "retirings" at the start.
>
> Then, once it became to _everyone_ in the nation it wasn't going all
> that well (2 years ago+), they still insisted it was going perfectly,
> nothing to worry about, the plan is perfect.
>
> Well, I don't see it going all that well from my comfortable seat here
> on the sidelines. And those members of the military I talk to
> privately share that opinion. Including a Special Forces officer in
> Afghanistan, and a small-boat interdiction specialist in Iraq (both of
> whom see almost constant action). They say it is hotter this year than
> last, which was worse than the year before.
>
> On 11/6/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How so?
> >
> > We saw their forces collapse the first time, that was again the
> expected,
> > and eventual result.
> >
> > The following turmoil, initially generated by outside sources (Iran, Al
> > Queda....) couldn't have been accurately predicted.  You can dig up an
> > intelligence report from the same time frame with the directly opposing
> > prediction, especially in the wake of the early big successes in
> > Afghanistan.
> >
> > I'd hate to say it people but it's a lot easier to put stuff down in
> > hindsight.
>
> 

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