> -----Original Message----- > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: What could $456 billion buy. > > On 5/14/07, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A threat to our allies perhaps, I'll grant you that. Not to us. > > > Note also that Clinton never invaded them - the threat posed was not > that > > severe. Clinton's actions were in congress with the notion of > "subdue and > > contain" and it was clearly working. > > Clinton bombed them without permission from congress.
Congress the word, not congress the political body. > > Then it should have been simple to gather some direct evidence of > that. > > Check Syria? Okay. .... Done. Hate the food, no good TV and no WMDs. > > No worse than the threats posed by the same kind of camps in Syria, > Pakistan > > or Iran. In fact such camps in Iraq were almost definitely less of a > threat > > because of the sanctions and the scrutiny the country was under. In > any > > case such camps, being - you know - TERRORIST CAMPS - are poorly > dealt with > > by attacking a country's central regime and civilian infrastructure. > > Sanctions didn't work, they only made teh madman wealthier. So we invaded to stop a madman from getting wealthy? Which argument are we on? Defense, humanitarian or social change? > > I'm saying what I've been saying: that the war Iraq has left us less > secure > > than we were. That the hemorrhaging of resources aborad have left us > less > > able to deal with threats at home (the argument "fight the terrorists > over > > there so we don't have to here" has little meaning when most > terrorists are > > home grown). > > I don't see many American terrorists. Are you talking about the school > shooting? The second largest terrorist attack on American soil? The Oklahoma city bombing? Hundreds dead? Remember that? > > Are you honestly saying that our resources are NOT stretched thin? > We can't > > provide adequate care to our wounded veterans. We find it a > necessity to > > extend and multiply tours of duty. We find it difficult to maintain > order > > even in the so-called "green zone". > > We're stretched thin but that doesn't make us weak. Not "weak" - weaker. As in "we're weaker for having invaded Iraq". Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion MX7 by AdobeĀ® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:234673 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5