** Private ** wrote:
>
> APEWS has glommed onto the way blacklists work, which is as trusted sources
> to block spam.

You are redefining DNS RBLs into something they are not. There are quite 
literally dozens of different DNS RBLs and all of them are different. There are 
indeed DNS RBLs that simply list IP addresses from which the operators have 
received actual spam and which auto-expire listings (for example the CBL: 
http://cbl.abuseat.org). They *reactively* list IP addresses and they generally 
behave the way you apparently expect all DNS RBLs to behave.
However, there is an even larger number of DNS RBLs that list IP addresses for 
entirely different reasons. There are the DNS RBLs that will list an IP address 
simply for being assigned to a certain country. (kr.rbl.cluecentral.net will 
list Korea, cn.rbl.cluecentral.net will list China etc. etc.) There are DNS 
RBLs that will list an IP address simply for being in use for dial up 
(dialups.mail-abuse.org) or for DSL. There are RBLs for filtering the IP 
addresses of certain ISPs (as.cluecentral.net). There are RBLs that track IP 
assignments to certain individuals (that usually have several outstanding 
warrants) and list those assignments (SBL). There are DNS RBLs that list IP 
addresses of mailservers that are not configured according to certain standards 
(rfc-ignorant).

And then there is apews that, just like spews previously, lists the IP space 
assigned to certain individuals and the IP space of ISPs that do not respond to 
spam complaints and / or host certain individuals.


> APEWS is abusing that trusted relationship to block very
> large segments of the Internet in an attempt to coerce the users on those
> networks to switch operators, and thereby coerce the operators themselves to
> implement better control over spam coming from their networks. Why is it
> abuse? Because they are going far beyond the boundaries of what a spam
> blacklist is meant to do. They are engaging in a political fight using the
> tools of economic warfare to try to push their agenda.

So essentially you redefine apews to be something it is not, and then call it 
abuse because they don't stick to your definition.

Jochem


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