What I was getting at was that we are competing, more so every
day, with the rest of the world.  And teh 3rd world, in some cases.

So, if the better tech IS the answer (which it always is, but some
stuff is hard to automate), we'll get there even with cheap labor,
cuz the automation is only viable if it's cheaper than cheap labor.

The tomato picking is a good example, actually, because that
tech came about, even with cheap labor (and as a way to get
even more bang for the buck).

But you also gotta factor in the fmall sarmer, ya know? Can
Jim Deere afford that cost effective, but still $$$$$ piece of tech?
Do we want to kill off the small farmer?  I'm not a hugr fan of
some of the subsidy stuff, so... but I don't know.  I also really
like farms, and self-sustainability, etc..  Local growers, etc..

I just don't think illegal immigration is really holding us back
on the tech front... and that soon, we're gonna have to deal
with the fact that we're in this with the rest of the world...

tech or no, no?

PS I don't mean we should kill off important stuff, just to
compete... sometimes, winning isn't everything. Ya know?

On 6/23/07, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's actually kinda my point - in agricultural areas where there isn't
> cheap labor available in the US, those areas have been automated.  Areas
> with cheap (illegal) labor don't advance because the low costs farms have
> when they break labor laws. That, in my opinion, has been artificially
> suppressing advancement.
>
> -Cameron
>
> On 6/23/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Our tech is the only reason we've been able to keep up with the rest of
> > the
> > world, actually.  See tomato picking, for instance.  We'd be slaughtered
> > by
> > 3rd worlders with plenty of cheap labor if we didn't have superior (and
> > keep
> > producing superior) technology.
> >
>
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