>perhaps, Brian, but life is too short to reason with him. I have spent
>entire weeks trying to talk sense to Sam. Net result -- Sam's mind is
>unchanged and I have a few more grey hairs. May as well put my
>energies to effective use. I can't speak for Wayne, but those are my
>thoughts.
>
>Every so often he is in fact correct, and I give him credit for
>sticking to his guns where he is -- Schiavo comes to mind -- but the
>flip side of that is that he persists in seeing liberal conspiracies
>because that is what his listening tells him to look for.
>

Correct about Shiavo? You have got to be kidding. The data says otherwise. You 
both were wrong. The autopsy report was quite clear - there was no chance of 
that woman ever regaining consciousness - what eventually died was a poor 
abandoned hulk of flesh. Ms. Shiavo died when she had her heart attack in teh 
early 90's.

Ideology over reality again.

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