No, I am not suggesting random causes. I am suggesting that the planet's multi-million year warming and cooling cycles have causes other than human activity. Since there were no humans millions of years ago, human activity is the one cause we can totally rule out when it comes to these historical cycles.
Whether human activity nows plays a role, and how big a role it plays, is debatable; what is not debatable is that there are other causes that cause these cycles. We've discussed some possibile causes on the list - solar flares, meteor impacts, the proximity of the Earth to the Sun. No one can say for sure whether any of these things affect warming and cooling, all we can say is that humans were not responsible for the past history of these cycles. On 8/16/07, Gruss wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > > No, I said that global warming definitely exists, global cooling > definitely > > exists, and the historical record shows that the planet has gone through > > steady cycles of warming and cooling for ages. > > You're missing the flaw in your logic, here's how: > > You're saying that there are natural cycles in temperature; > statistically you're saying it's "common cause" variation or > flucuations created from random variations. How do you know this? > You don't. You're speculating and then taking the lazy logicians way > out. > > Here's the key fact: the temperature variation HAS A CAUSE. To say > that it's just random is as unknown as saying that it isn't. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:240534 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5