On Dec 23, 2007 7:14 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 24 straight quarters of Gross Domestic Product growth

The national debt was about 5.7 trillion dollars when Bush took office
(the first time) and it grew to just over 7.1 trillion dollars during
his first term and is currently 9.1 trillion dollars. So in his first
four years he drove use 1.4 trillion dollars further into debt and
during the next three years increased that debt by twice that amount:
2 trillion dollars of additional debt in just 3 years!!

> > consummate politician. Huckabee is a right-wing fundamentalist
> > Christian so I'm terrified of him (we've had enough right-wing
> > fundamentalism with the current corrupt administration).
> Don't mistake neo-con for right-wing fundamentalism

Bear in mind I've lived in Europe where they actually have a broad
spectrum of political parties. Let me tell you that both Bush and
Huckabee qualify as right-wing and Huckabee is certainly a
fundamentalist Christian (and from my p.o.v. Bush is pretty darned
fundamentalist as well).

> I think you don't like/trust religious people and I understand why but
> you really should try to work past that.

I was born and raised in Northern Ireland where Christians were
constantly killing each other because they practiced different flavors
of the SAME BLOODY RELIGION! Of course I don't like/trust religious
people!

> > About the only Republican I'd consider is Guiliani because he's
> > moderate - but he sure is a slimy s.o.b.
> He's my choice and I don't understand your negative labels.

He gives me the creeps. Sorry for the negativity. As I say, of the
Republicans, he's the one I'd pick. That doesn't mean I like or trust
him. I don't like or trust any of them.

> His limited voting record is more liberal than Pelosi and we've seen
> how good her leadership is.

Heh, well, I come from Europe where we have real liberals. There's
almost nothing liberal in American politics. Just the choice between a
moderately right of center party and a very right of center party...

> Dosen't he want to sit down all the despot rulers and talk them in to
> being nice to us? Wow is that naive.

You know, after 40 years of armed confrontation with the IRA, Blair's
move to *talks* actually yielded results. Politics often works better
than military force. Let's face it, Bush's "War on Terror" is a
pathetic failure. America is far more hated now - especially in Iraq -
than it was before Bush started on his "crusade".

> I think if Powell or Condi had great chances a couple of years ago,
> not so much now.

I agree. And despite Powell being a Republican, I probably would have
voted for him. I'm not so sure about Condi - but certainly now I don't
think she would have a chance.

> I think a black Republican could get elected but not a black Democrat
> and I blame the party not the voters.

That's an interesting point of view... I'll have to think about that.
-- 
Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/

"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
-- Margaret Atwood

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