you would know more about the rules of warfare than I so I defer to you in that. However -- those people who were finally charged with the crimes of 9/11 were charged onthe basis of allegations made under torture which nullifies the validity of the proceedings in many people's eyes, which is an enormous shame since *they do appear to be guilty regardless.*
Leaving ethics aside (a big aside) it's still really stupid. On Feb 13, 2008 11:53 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm using MY definition of what I think is acceptable treatment for an > enemy combatant. One that has NO rights under the rules of land warfare > and could be summarily executed at any time as a spy or a saboteur. > > I love the fact that I just automatically piss of the republicans and > the democrats both. > > Dana wrote: > > You are using their definition. If someone pours water up your nose > > you will probably tell anyone anything you think they want to hear, > > whether it is reaching your lungs or not. I am using you in the > > generic sense here. Not you specifically. > > > > On Feb 13, 2008 11:36 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Water boarding is not torture. > >> > >> Cutting off fingers, electrocution, burning, beating, kicking, these are > >> torture. > >> > >> Or to expand on the argument, while PHYSICAL torture is and should be > >> banned, psychological torture isn't and shouldn't be. > >> > >> I mean the cops can use a lot of methods that are construed as > >> psychological torture, but we'll prohibit our soldiers from doing so? > >> > >> Dana wrote: > >>> you forgot some stuff. Defining pollution to exclude any petroleum > >>> byproduct. Defining torture to exclude waterboarding. Decimating the > >>> public trust. That's just off the top of my head. And lying, don't > >>> forget lying. They all lie, but Bush has made a shameless career > >>> strategy of it. > >>> > >>> On Feb 13, 2008 11:26 AM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> So you got nothing again but Bush this inner feeling Bush is evil, > >>>>> it's called Bush derangement syndrome. :) > >>>> The PATRIOT Act, Warrantless wiretapping, Operation TIPS, constant > >>>> reminders about which Alert stage we're sitting at. Rendition and > >>>> indefinite holding of persons without charge or counsel. > >>>> > >>>> Yeah, I'm the one that's deranged. > >>>> > >>>> I hope Bush doesn't stop too quickly your head might go all the way > >>>> into his ass... :-) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> will > >>>> > >>>> "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; > >>>> and that would just be unacceptable." > >>>> - Carrie Fisher > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:254194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
