it was, by will bowen. On Feb 13, 2008 12:17 PM, Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will include another of your comments in my response to your first. > > >>I'm using MY definition of what I think is acceptable treatment for an > enemy combatant. One that has NO rights under the rules of land warfare > and could be summarily executed at any time as a spy or a saboteur. > > Just because you think it is 'acceptable treatment' does not mean the act > itself is no longer torture. If you think it is acceptable to torture > people for whatever reason, fine, just say that. > > Psychological torture is sometimes worse than physical. Not to be crude, > but if someone were to dunk your head in a toilet until you almost, or did > pass out, and you weren't sure whether each time would be your last on this > earth, I think you would probably start to feel pretty tortured. It has to > be a horrifying experience. Suffocation has to be one of the worst ways to > die. > > I also find it interesting how the U.S. convicted a Japanese officer after > WWII of war crimes for waterboarding and sentenced him to 15 years hard > labor, but now it's AOK when it is useful for 'us'. > > I am still trying to find something I read about what actually happens > during waterboarding. It was pretty disturbing. I am pretty sure it was > even posted to this list. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Obama] Client sent me this ... > > > > Do you have an actual argument or just a "feeling"? > > > > Todd wrote: > >> I call bullshit on this. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:36 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Obama] Client sent me this ... > >> > >> > >>> Water boarding is not torture. > >>> > >>> Cutting off fingers, electrocution, burning, beating, kicking, these are > >>> torture. > >>> > >>> Or to expand on the argument, while PHYSICAL torture is and should be > >>> banned, psychological torture isn't and shouldn't be. > >>> > >>> I mean the cops can use a lot of methods that are construed as > >>> psychological torture, but we'll prohibit our soldiers from doing so? > > >
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