> Sgt Sorge wrote:
> But let's get back on track here. You say that he has a time line to
> pull out troops, but the article I just sent you mentions no specifics
> regarding when to pull out troops

Yes, your article doesn't mention it; but that doesn't mean it doesn't
exist - it does - and Obama published it in an opinion piece to the NY
Times titled "my plan for Iraq".  In THAT piece he mentions a specific
time table.

Further you're not accurately discriminating between ambiguous terms.
2 people can say, "when the security situation permits" and mean
TOTALLY different things because that's a subjective statement.

To understand *objectively* what "when the security situation permits"
means to each person, you must ask them to define explicitly what
they're talking about.

When both Obama and McCain are asked to *explicitly* state what they
mean by "when the security situation permits" you seen a vast chasm
between their positions.

This is where Obama says "about 16 months" and McCain says when we
achieve "victory" which he refuses to define.

Therefore, objectively, McCain is not giving any indication of WHEN he
would act and Obama is.

Think of it this way: I owe you $5000.  You ask me when I'm going to
pay you back.

McCain is saying: "when my liquidity position improves".
Obama is saying: "In 2 weeks."

I dunno about you, but I'd take the Obama answer over the McCain answer any day.

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