On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Gruss wrote:

> I think you need to read up a bit more on the facts.

No, I think you need to read my posts more carefully. As I noted, if
the South Ossetians or Abkahzians want to be part of Russia, they
should be allowed to hold a referendum and choose.

> The region gets nothing in support from Georgia: no garbage pick up,
> no schools, nothing.  Further, they don't consider themselves
> Georgian, don't want to be Georgian, and many hold Russian passports.
>
> Russia can legitimately claim that it was acting to protect its
> citizens from Georgian agression.

And what of the reports of shelling coming from South Ossetia that
precipitated the Georgian response?

> Of course there are more complicated items here, but it's far from
> clear that Georgia is innocent.

Georgia isn't innocent, but the Russians have gone way, way beyond
anything resembling defensive action. Funny that you can't seem to
bring yourself to admit Russia's role.

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