On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:16 PM, William wrote:

> > The way the debates are now is really just a marketing presentation.
>
> and not a very good one at that...
>

isn't that the truth. too many professional handlers, pollsters, media
analysts, surrogates, shills, professional protesters, and all the rest.
what the hell happened to just talking with people?


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