Maybe, Tim. I am not even going to try to figure out the organizational chart. I don't have enough information. But the peple who were very patronizingly sayig that people who were not terrorists have nothing to fear need to be slapped.
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think we should have an NSA. Or a CIA, DEA, ATF, DHS, or a > great many other federal agencies for this very reason. > > While I do think we need the FBI, they are a perfect example of a > federal law enforcement agency gone wild, being caught in hundreds of > criminal violations in the first year they were enabled to use national > security letters rather than get a warrant to tap. Waco, Ruby Ridge, > the garbage with the Cuban child. They have killed innocent people, > trampled on search and seizure law, and need to be reigned in. > > Do I even need to get in to all the bumbling mistakes the ATF and DEA > have made, the lives they have needlessly ruined. I think it gets even > worse as you begin to look at local law enforcement, and the > militarization of their equipment, gear and mindset. Many of the local > officers that I know have a total us vs. them outlook. They are not > protecting the community, they are trying to get the community. Look at > the new cash and property seizure laws springing up around the country. > It's now often illegal to be in possession of 10,000 of cash, and in > some states like Texas they can take the money, not charge you with > anything, and never give the money back. The same has happened with > cars, houses and all kinds of things. > > The best law enforcement officers I usually come across are Sherrifs and > State Troopers. I don't know what the difference is but they seem to > maintain their attitude of being helpful, friendly, and protective > better than any other law enforcement I know. > > As for intelligence. Well I think that our department of defense should > become just that. An organization dedicated to protecting the national > borders of the United States. When these wars are over bring home our > soldiers, all of them, Germany, Egypt, Kuwait, Qatar, Korea, Japan, the > Philippines. > > Scale back the huge ticket high tech items. Our main battle systems, > the conventional ones, are so more far advanced than the rest of the > world that to continue to upgrade and expand at the same rate as we had > been during the cold war, and our current struggles, makes no sense. > > Add more light infantry divisions. They are cheap, and are actually > useful is securing our borders. Actually man the borders. > > Have the DoD take over ALL intelligence. > > > Dana wrote: >> see? It will keep happening. >> >> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Even then I'd imagine it would be difficult at best. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dana wrote: >>>> hopefully somoene will investigate. Pretty tough to investigate the >>>> NSA though. You pretty much have to be Congress I think. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Ok, heres the problem. >>>>> >>>>> Later in the story they interview two other people that worked at the >>>>> same facility that both said the main source was full of it, and I don't >>>>> know what to think. I have known people that would stoop to making >>>>> something up to support their position, but I have also known people in >>>>> the military that would lie to hide their culpability. >>>>> >>>>> Dana wrote: >>>>>> fair enough, thanks for reading it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dana >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> Yeah, I agree and have a problem with this. >>>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:273737 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
