Yes, and if you follow my suggested free body diagram, link by link, you'll
see precisely how that opposing force translates into the phenomenon
described.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Productivity Enhancement

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: gun talk... clickNclack
> 
> So the bullet firing from the barrel actually creates a certain amount
> of thrust in the opposite direction
> AKA Newton's Third Law of Motion..
> 
> Adam Churvis wrote:
> > Actually, this is mostly a skill issue.  If you're good enough to let
> off
> > three-round bursts with a well-aimed first round, if you hold the
> weapon
> > correctly and hold your body correctly, you should get proper
> coverage.
> >
> > But I'm sure Bruce will tell you that, in combat, you rarely have the
> > ability to use the perfect stance, because even the best of them
> don't
> > provide well for protection.
> >
> > If you draw a free body diagram of the environment, you'll see that
> the
> > force vector opposite the direction of travel of the projectile is
> directed
> > above the mounting point of the gun against the shoulder (draw the
> body as a
> > stick figure including the hips as a horizontal strut), and that the
> > shoulder and spine rotate around a vertical line.  This describes a
> muzzle
> > arc with both an vertical component and a rotational component,
> resulting in
> > the muzzle tending to move up and to the right (for a right-handed
> shooter).
> >
> > That's where stance can help prevent the problem, and where a short
> burst
> > minimizes the problem because the earliest phase of the phenomenon
> occurs
> > while the muzzle is just beginning to move and hasn't had enough time
> to
> > gain velocity from the inertia.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Adam Phillip Churvis
> > President
> > Productivity Enhancement
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:22 AM
> >> To: cf-community
> >> Subject: Re: gun talk... clickNclack
> >>
> >> "The AK is a fully automatic weapon, and an inherent issue with
> >> anything
> >> automatic is that if you just pull the trigger and let her rip, the
> gun
> >> will
> >> walk up and over to one side. "
> >>
> >> Is this a torque issue?
> >>
> >> Bruce Sorge wrote:
> >>
> >>> The AK is a fully automatic weapon, and an inherent issue with
> >>>
> >> anything
> >>
> >>> automatic is that if you just pull the trigger and let her rip, the
> >>>
> >> gun will
> >>
> >>> walk up and over to one side. This is why we teach the SAW and 240B
> >>>
> >> gunners
> >>
> >>> to fire 4-6 round bursts. They fire at the target, the weapon moves
> a
> >>> little, you stop and reacquire the target and do it all over again.
> >>>
> >> This is
> >>
> >>> for point targets. For area targets, you fire a few more rounds at
> a
> >>> time for suppression.
> >>> Regarding the videos, I don't know. I usually use a SCAR or the M-4
> >>>
> >> if I
> >>
> >>> have a choice. Or a sniper rifle if it is available, and depending
> on
> >>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>> scenario.
> >>> The AK is also a bit sloppy. By that I mean that when you shake it,
> >>>
> >> you hear
> >>
> >>> parts hitting each other. I have fired the AK though and I can
> >>>
> >> usually hit
> >>
> >>> whatever target I am aiming at. I just fire 2-3 round bursts for
> >>>
> >> control.
> >>
> >>> I am sure that Loathe will have more to contribute to this topic.
> He
> >>>
> >> is
> >>
> >>> pretty knowledgeable about this stuff. More so than I am.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Vivec wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Is the AK47 as inaccurate as they make it seem in just about every
> >>>> video game out there?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 

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