On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:37 PM, denstar wrote: > I get that general idea, but you seem to imply that most religions > agree, which I don't think is quite the case, unless you're > "enlightened", > or perhaps only worried about the majority (I think a lot of the > Constitution is there to protect the/a minority, sorta, neh?). >
I'm not implying that, and I would note that people don't always agree with religious doctrine. Catholics sometimes support abortion, although it is anathema to the Catholic Church. As for protecting the minority, read Democracy in America (vol 1) sometime, it will open your eyes. Tocqueville believed the single greatest threat to our democratic system lay in the "tyranny of the majority". > So in my book it's got to be grounded in common sense, first and > foremost. If it fits within your religious morals as well, good on > you. Common sense is irrelevant in this context. What matter is 1. Is it legal under the Constitution? and 2. Will voters support it? The former matters because if it fails that test, judges will throw it out. The latter matters because leaders who make unpopular decisions get tossed out of office. Gay marriage was just discussed, wasn't it? What are the common sense > arguments for "against" there, for instance? > Not so much a question of common sense as morality. Large numbers of religious people supported the ban in CA on moral grounds. I disagree with that view, but it is legitimate and ought to be respected. Clearly the strategy in CA now shifts back to the courts, which already ruled once in favor of gay marriage. > Basically, yes, there can be something "wrong with that" idea of > yours. *Can* be. Not *must*. =] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:282047 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5