> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 4:44 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: global warming my eye
> 
> But there is no 'control' data, or data that shows what the climate was
> like
> before.

Of course there is.  You just apparently ignore it (no matter how many times
it's brought up).

There is good data for at least several thousand years and less high-quality
data for at least 10,000.

> If you wanted to do  a study to track the changes in the length of
> daylight
> over the course of a year and used the statistical equivalent (figuring
> 150
> yrs of data over lets say 10,000,000 years) of 0.0015%, that means your
> study would be limited to .005475 days or about 7.884 seconds.  I think
> we
> could all agree that 7.884 seconds is statistically insignificant over
> the
> course of a year, as 150 years is statistically insignificant over the
> course of 10,000,000 years.

This is an asinine argument... why 10,000,000 years?  What statistical
significance does 10,000,000 years hold?  What questions in the scientific
debate require 10,000,000 years worth of data to solve?  Why would you
condense the data to a daily scale?  What purpose does that serve?

You're just implying ignorance by building false comparisons and using that
to recommend complete inaction.  

How much data do we need to collect before any action can be taken in your
opinion?  When are we allowed to extrapolate data to suggestions of action?

Cancer has been killing things for millions of years... yet we have only a
paltry few decades of good data: should we wait until we have some magical
ratio of "existence v. research" to consider doing anything about that?

Jim Davis


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