Yes, I do. Twice isn't bad for almost 240 years. Especially as those were both in actual wars with a defined enemy and the realistic prospect of a win or loss or treaty.
This is a "War on Terror". How the hell do you win that? You keep harping about how Al Queda is a non-nationstate and therefore things like the Geneva Convention don't apply. Well how do we define winning then? Losing? Who do we sign a peace agreement with? What are the circumstances when we'll be able to roll back the Patriot Act? When we kill Bin Laden? World War II was 4 years long (for the U.S.) Internment spanned less than 3 years. The Civil War was 4 years long and literally tore the country apart. We face no such threat to our country yet how long have we had it suspended now? Roosevelt was wrong to inter the Japanese-Americans during WWII. At least at the time though he could say that he'd release them when we defeated the Japanese. Bush was never able to say what it would take to close down Guantanamo. He moved us into a state of permanent war with no boundaries and used it as an excuse to undermine our most basic rights. That is unconscionable and unprecedented. Judah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:286617 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5