Dana called Al Qaeda a social movement. If it is truly to become that, its leadership must renounce violence, disarm, and become a legitimate social movement. How does that happen? They sign a surrender document and surrender for judgment at the hands of a war crimes court. The Hague would be fine with me.
What are the odds of Bin Laden and Zawahiri surrendering? I wonder if there is a line on that with the London bookmakers? Actually, I'm going to blog about this... On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Judah M wrote: > Yes, I do. Twice isn't bad for almost 240 years. Especially as those > were both in actual wars with a defined enemy and the realistic > prospect of a win or loss or treaty. > > This is a "War on Terror". How the hell do you win that? You keep > harping about how Al Queda is a non-nationstate and therefore things > like the Geneva Convention don't apply. Well how do we define winning > then? Losing? Who do we sign a peace agreement with? What are the > circumstances when we'll be able to roll back the Patriot Act? When we > kill Bin Laden? > > World War II was 4 years long (for the U.S.) Internment spanned less > than 3 years. The Civil War was 4 years long and literally tore the > country apart. We face no such threat to our country yet how long have > we had it suspended now? > > Roosevelt was wrong to inter the Japanese-Americans during WWII. At > least at the time though he could say that he'd release them when we > defeated the Japanese. Bush was never able to say what it would take > to close down Guantanamo. He moved us into a state of permanent war > with no boundaries and used it as an excuse to undermine our most > basic rights. That is unconscionable and unprecedented. > > Judah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:286619 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5