> Judah wrote:
>
> Gruss, you're being purposefully obtuse.

I'm not, but let me try to be more clear:

If the government is going to decide what plans I can and can't get,
then I'm against it.

If the government is going to what equipment my hospital can and can't
buy, then I'm against it.

If the government is going to decide what services my doctor can and
can't perform, then I'm against it.

If there's anything obtuse it's advocating for something you can't
define nor understand.

You keep pounding the table for "nationalized health care" and
"government health care" and I'm just asking for you to define that by
describing the government's role at each constituent level, what the
estimated costs might be, and who's going to pay for it when and how
much.

Since nobody's done that, I'm just asking questions and pointing out
what you've failed to define.

Be honest here: you don't (or didn't) understand the insurance
business model and you don't (or didn't) understand how
Medicare/Medicaid works.  Nor the costs, nor the implications of
expansion.

If I was advocating for government run healthcare, those are 2
subjects I wouldn't want to be weak on.

So let's agree: none of us here understand this subject well enough to
advocate for anything, but we all agree that people are entitled some
basic form of eligibility to health care benefits as citizens of the
US.  The big question is the best way to go about creating that
system.

I've thrown out my ideas on how to do that in some earlier post.

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