Judha,

That is exactly why I am torn.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Ideally we shouldn't give them money to spend on drugs. You've seen
> drug addiction before though Scott, you should know how difficult it
> can be to ditch addiction even in the best of circumstances. And many
> of the folks we are talking about here are not in the best of
> circumstances. So, where do we draw the line? The social and financial
> cost of having broken, failed families is very very high. They aren't
> putting out a bunch of happy, healthy, educated, productive, tax
> paying citizens. When do we give up on people and say no more?
> Morality aside, what is the tipping point for investment in people?
>
> I agree that we need safeguards to prevent the worst abuse of the
> systems. I've seen stupid, bad people in my day and I mean that
> honestly. Waste of space people. But I've seen a hell of a lot more
> people that can potentially be helped. A lot of those people aren't
> going to be easy to help though. There is no magic silver bullet for
> dealing with poverty, drug addiction, poor environment, etc. I don't
> know of any programs where you can say "if you've failed this twice
> you are hopeless because you are lazy and stupid". But that's where we
> have to be drawing lines.
>
> Judah
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I am not saying we need to be their mommy and daddy, but if we are just
> > going to give them money, shouln't we make sure they are not spending it
> on
> > drugs?
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Cameron Childress <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > I agree, but if our tax dollars are going to be given to someone,
> maybe
> >> its
> >> > not too much to ask that they don't do drugs, or engage in other
> illegal
> >> > activity.
> >>
> >> That's the least an irresponsible teen's mommy and daddy would want,
> >> even though the government shouldn't be that teen's mommy and daddy.
> >>
> >> -Cameron
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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