To a point I agree with this. However, lazy and stupid people litter the pathways of America. Might as well say that we should give up on high schools because some students are lazy and stupid, or decide not to fund hospitals because that will just encourage medical negligence. You don't thnk I wince when I see some tiny toddler neglected by a narcissistic teen? Sure it happens. It's more the exception than the rule though. Way more families get left high for whatever reason.
Those of you who have had investment losses this year -- are you there because of your bad choices? Or were you lied to in varying degrees? Let he who has never been in a bad place listen for the damn bell :) because it tolls for thee. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ideally we shouldn't give them money to spend on drugs. You've seen > drug addiction before though Scott, you should know how difficult it > can be to ditch addiction even in the best of circumstances. And many > of the folks we are talking about here are not in the best of > circumstances. So, where do we draw the line? The social and financial > cost of having broken, failed families is very very high. They aren't > putting out a bunch of happy, healthy, educated, productive, tax > paying citizens. When do we give up on people and say no more? > Morality aside, what is the tipping point for investment in people? > > I agree that we need safeguards to prevent the worst abuse of the > systems. I've seen stupid, bad people in my day and I mean that > honestly. Waste of space people. But I've seen a hell of a lot more > people that can potentially be helped. A lot of those people aren't > going to be easy to help though. There is no magic silver bullet for > dealing with poverty, drug addiction, poor environment, etc. I don't > know of any programs where you can say "if you've failed this twice > you are hopeless because you are lazy and stupid". But that's where we > have to be drawing lines. > > Judah > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I am not saying we need to be their mommy and daddy, but if we are just > > going to give them money, shouln't we make sure they are not spending it > on > > drugs? > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Cameron Childress <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I agree, but if our tax dollars are going to be given to someone, > maybe > >> its > >> > not too much to ask that they don't do drugs, or engage in other > illegal > >> > activity. > >> > >> That's the least an irresponsible teen's mommy and daddy would want, > >> even though the government shouldn't be that teen's mommy and daddy. > >> > >> -Cameron > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:290700 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
