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> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:11 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE: Christian missionary bus ads
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> I thought thtey were forced to add the probably?

Not really, but sorta - it was recommended to adapt to the (surprisingly
strict) advertising code, but is also "correct" from the Atheist point of
view.

Although it's the popular description no "good" atheist would say there's
"definitely" no God.  Saying there's definitely no God is just as much a
faith-based conclusion as saying there definitely IS a God.  As you simply
can't prove a negative like this it's reasonably, intellectually more
correct to say "probably" (even "almost definitely" or "nearly certainly" -
but never "definitely certainly").

It's a subtle point - one that doesn't really matter for most purposes - but
an important one.  Most people think "Theists know there's a God, Agnostics
don't know and Atheists know there's not" when a more correct run-down might
be "Theists have faith there's a God, Agnostics feel the question is
unanswerable and Atheists see no evidence for a God."

Actually Richard Dawkins was originally (mildly) critical of the slogan - it
was too wishy-washy in his opinion, but he eventually warmed up to it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2009/jan/06/atheist-bus 

In any case it does make for a softer, friendlier, less-inflammatory message
and I'm all for that.

Jim Davis




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