that makes it ok then, lets leave it there

-----Original Message-----
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 April 2002 15:56
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Massacre in Adora (Israel)


God warned everyone of what was going to happen.  They had free will to
decide if they wanted to listen or not.  

Howie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Smyth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:40 AM
Subject: RE: Massacre in Adora (Israel)


> i'm actually going to borrow phils argument here
> 
> what about noah's flood?
> the plague of eygpt?
> 
> he decided to step in then and enforce his will, slaughtering thousands
> including every first born child, were those people free?  Was that not
the
> actions of a dictator?
> 
> so sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't.  But then again he's God and
can
> do what he likes, right.  Sometimes we're slaves, sometimes we're as free
as
> birds.  If there was some logic to when he interviened and when he doesn't
> (apart from the times he interviened there is absolutely no proof), I
might,
> might believe that argument.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 29 April 2002 15:08
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
> 
> 
> If God didn't allow it to happen, then he wouldn't be God, would he. He'd
be
> a dictator and we'd all be his slaves instead of free, loved and loving
> beings.
> 
> H.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:20 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
> >
> >
> > I agree with Jeff that theres no need whatever to apologise.
> >
> > I have children also, and the thought of other peoples children being
> > murdered like this is heartraking.
> >
> > To be honest this sort of thing happening is why I gave up
> > religeon, I can't
> > believe God would allow this kind've thing to happen.
> >
> > well i'd better get some work done, but to be honest can't stop thinking
> > about that poor family, is anything worth a childs death?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 28 April 2002 17:04
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
> >
> >
> > No need for apologies Judith... While I typically stay out of many of
the
> > religious discussions, I do pray for peace in that region and I
> > support what
> > Israel is doing to protect their existence.  I'll second what Ben said
in
> > that we may not always agree on "how" to achieve peace in the
> > region, we all
> > agree that peace must be achieved for the sake of all parties involved.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 9:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: Massacre in Adora (Israel)
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry for venting -- please just ignore it; I should not post stuff
> > like this to the list.
> >
> > If you guys want to keep up with what's happening in Israel, you
> > can always
> > go the arutzsheva site (http://www.arutzsheva.org) and see for yourself.
I
> > don't have to bombard you with news like this.
> >
> > Judith
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 

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