You are comparing apples and oranges...sorry. That is a severe lack of logic in that argument. The mailbox analogy was WAY batter than this one. There is no reasonable expectation of security if you leave your accounts with weak passwords. It is well known that if you leave your account poorly secured it will get hacked or at least greatly increase your chances of getting hacked. That is the reasonable expectation. Just like if you leave your car unlocked with the keys in the ignition in a bad neighborhood, that chances are, when you get back, your car will be gone. With rape on the otherhand, there is reasonable expectation that your body wont get violated...without your consent anyhow ;-)
Eric -----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:16 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! You will need to forgive me for misinterpretting this: 'But again, if you don't secure thing and you leave it wide open, don't be surprised when someone comes it. Not leaving it secured is akin to putting a neon sign over it and saying come on in...especially if you are a public figure.' As you saying 'she deserved it'...it seems like a logical conclusion to me. To me, saying a victim 'deserved' what happened to them, is the same as defending those who perpetrated the crime. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I don't recall seeing anything defending anyone coming from me...so either I > was typing in my sleep or you're toking on some good stuff over there > Scott... My point was that if you dont use proper security, then dont act > all surprised when someone does hack you. That is common sense. Other than > mailboxes in apartments and other multi-family dwellings, I haven't, but > that doesn't meant hey don't exist obviously. When most people think > mailbox, however, they are thinking of your standard, non paranoid, single > owner type. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:29 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! > > > I cannot believe that you guys are actually trying to defend the > invasion of someone's privacy. Is this Bizaro World? What's next? Sam > touting the benefits of Obama-care? > > BTW - I have seen mailboxes that have an opening to put mail into, but > also a door, with a lock, to get it out. Still, lock or not, it is > illegal, and I believe a felony, to open someone else's mail. > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Eric Roberts > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >> That's even a bad analogy. The mail box isn't locked and cant be (or how >> else does mail get in), while your email is supposed to be secured. If > you >> want to stick to the snail mail analogy, then maybe a PO box and you leave >> your key hanging on the box at the post office. But again, if you don't >> secure thing and you leave it wide open, don't be surprised when someone >> comes it. Not leaving it secured is akin to putting a neon sign over it > and >> saying come on in...especially if you are a public figure. >> >> Eric >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:54 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >> >> >> I don't really think comparing it to breaking into a house is a very good >> analogy. I think it's probably more accurate to equate it to taking mail > out >> of someone's mail box. I believe this is a felony. And if someone did it > you >> would blame the victim by saying "well the mailbox wasn't even locked." >> >> I think it sucks that some kid who guesses a password gets time, but it's > a >> crime and a massive, premeditated invasion of privacy. We need to protect >> that privacy, especially now as we're losing more and more of it. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:317222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
