On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:21 PM, denstar wrote:
>>
>> Screw that noise.  Refuse management is *super* important.
>>
>> I respect that, and those that perform a thing that I need.
>>
>> Sounds like you take stuff for granted.  Isn't that part of "the
>> problem" with society today?
>
> When writing an article about happiness they come across a person that
> only works five hours a day and requires an IQ of 84. I'm not judging
> garbage men. I knew a few growing up and it was a great way out of the
> ghetto or if you had shitty grades and wanted security. I'm just
> saying when judging a nation you need to interview more mainstream
> jobs. If  everyone worked 25 hour weeks and didn't have to use their
> noodle during that time how could the nation survive? Or is that the
> point? We in the US work too hard and create useless things that lead
> to longer unhappy lives.

It seemed like you were judging garbage men.

I don't want to have to bust out the "Jesus was a carpenter" spiel.  =)

>> A "me first" attitude topped with a dash of judgmentalism?
>
> Being proud that I have a challenging career makes me selfish and
> judgmental? How so?

It not you being happy with your lot-- it's you taking shit regarding
other people's.

There are a lot of different ways to measure success, my friend.  It
doesn't have to come by the size of a price tag or a prestigious
title.

>> The longshorman job I was talking about was a do-no-work job since all
>>> the work moved out of NYC. Read the paper, play cards and cash the
>>> check.

"Watching" stuff isn't my cup of tea either.  I do enjoy reading
though, so... ;)

>> "do-no-work" and "job" are weird words to put together.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure the thing you're talking about has more to do with
>> individuals than job positions.  =)
>
> It was explained to me I would be guaranteed work through the union,
> but since no cargo came through the port anymore I would sit 8 hours a
> day and wait for it anyway.

I get it.  I feel the same, but don't look down on those who "fit"
positions like that.  Lots of times it's students, using the time to
study for classes, etc..  Which is super cool, but really, I don't
care if some dude enjoys doing "not much", and that's the job desc..

I don't talk down to, or look down on, people who have chosen a path
other than my own.  I'm really (apparently) the only one who can walk
mine.

>> I wouldn't want to work someplace where initiative is frowned upon though.
>
> That's what I said and you called me selfish and judgmental
> I also refused that j

It felt to me like you were knocking people for being different than yourself.

That somebody likes a different kind of food than myself doesn't make
them stupid or underachievers.

Just different.

And I'm fine with different.

I kind of like it, even.

See, really, I'm fine with you talking trash about trash collection.
Sorry if I came off as being judgmental about judgmentalism, I didn't
mean anything by it.  =)p

:DeN

-- 
[His toast:] Pure mathematics, may it never be of any use to anyone.
Smith, Henry John Ste

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