Isn't an anti-abortion group trying to interfere with women's rights? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > You are also comparing apples and oranges. None of those groups are > interfering with anyone else's rights. As Chief Justice Oliver Wendell > Holmes stated...your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. So > there is a precedent for this in that the exercise of one group's rights > cannot interfere with the rights of other groups. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:46 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... > > > It is not a matter of right or wrong. The issue is that you are quite > willing to remove the constitutional rights from members of an > obnoxious group simply because you disagree with them. What's next? > Forbidding members of anti-abortion groups from voicing their > opinions? Stopping members of the tea bagging party from meeting? > Preventing members of the republican party from voting at the polls? > Enforcing servitude based on a person's skin colour? > Once you start restricting the rights of one group based on > essentially trivial reasons you open the door for others to do the > same. > > I've never liked the slippery slope argument, but in this case it applies. > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Eric Roberts > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >> Yes...I don't think it would be right to protest anyone's funeral...even >> they were someone along the line of Manson or even Bush ;-) even their >> families should be allowed the time to grieve in peace. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:17 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... >> >> >> the WBC were protesting on public land however. Second where is the >> rights of families enshrined? What amendment of the constitution? Or >> for that matter where in the state constitution? >> >> And yes it has a lot to do with popularity. If the WBC were not such a >> stain on humanity would you be reacting as you are now? >> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Eric Roberts >> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>> >>> It has nothing to do with popularity...it has everything to do with the >>> right of a family to greave in peace and their right to privacy. Even if >> it >>> was a civilian funeral, they have a right to privacy. Cemeteries, in > most >>> states, are not public land, but privately owned property. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:42 AM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... >>> >>> >>> Public land. So do we start limiting freedom of assembly now based on >>> popularity? >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Eric Roberts >>> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would disagree...they were next to a cemetery within visual and >> auditory >>>> range of a family conducting a funeral. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:58 AM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... >>>> >>>> >>>> So are you saying that constitutional rights should only be available >>>> to those you agree with? >>>> >>>> Also unfortunately where the WBC protested was also part of the public >>>> public square. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Eric Roberts >>>> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> While the Nazi party and the KKK are just as offensive, they do their >>>> thing >>>>> out in a public square and are not disrupting the funeral of a soldier. >>>> The >>>>> rights of the family trump all others in this case. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:27 PM >>>>> To: cf-community >>>>> Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps, but if we don't allow the same freedoms for all even those >>>>> real obnoxious asshats like Phelps, what is the next exception. That's >>>>> why the Nazi party was allowed to march through parts of Skokie >>>>> Illinois, the KKK through majority black districts and communist >>>>> groups through majority eastern European districts. >>>>> >>>>> If we do not defend the rights of those asshats, we cannot justify >>>>> defending the rights of those we agree with. There are no exceptions. >>>>> Either everyone has those rights or none of us do. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Eric Roberts >>>>> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No...some things actually are sacred...like the right to bury a loved >>> one >>>>> in >>>>>> peace. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] >>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:43 PM >>>>>> To: cf-community >>>>>> Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You mean that the rights enshrined in the constitution should only be >>>>>> enjoyed by those you agree with. >>>>>> >>>>>> My how Republican of you. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Eric Roberts >>>>>> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's the people speaking when the government won't do the right > thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:17 PM >>>>>>> To: cf-community >>>>>>> Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow, that's pathetic. Why are you applauding this? Does slashing an >>>>>> asshat's >>>>>>> tires make the tire slashing itself any less asshat-ish? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Eric Roberts < >>>>>>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11 >>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20101114 >>>>>>>> _11_A12_CUTLIN105145> &articleid=20101114_11_A12_CUTLIN105145 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It appears that after the protest, the Westboro Baptist asshats > found >>>>>>> their >>>>>>>> tires slashed.and no one in town would help them fix their vehicles >>>>>>>> hehehehe. I bet that after having to drive a few blocks on their >> rims >>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> also had to have their rims replaced. All the local businesses >>> refused >>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>> service. Good thing the corporatist Walmart wasn't too far away. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Go McAlester! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > >
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