While fraud - in as much as people claiming to be someone else in order to vote - may not be rampant, the possibility definitely is there for this to be exploited - especially when the only thing you seem to need at the polling place to prove you are who you say you are is to give your name and address. Requiring some form of ID before casting a ballot can reduce the likelihood of fraud of this nature.
Honestly, without needing to reasonably prove you are who you say you are, why even bother having voters register to begin with? On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > what fraud though Gel? It's a restriction looking for an excuse. > > On, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Those may be fears or feelings of the individual, but when examined >> objectively they just don't make any sense. >> >> If I lose my wallet, I go to the nearest police station and report it, then >> I get an affidavit asserting that I have lost it etc. >> Then I go to the licensing office and passport office and get a new >> one. Chances are I would still have my birth certificate, may get other >> affidavits saying I am the person etc. >> >> It's a process that I've had to go through once for a driver's license. But >> I had my ID card which I kept at home, so that helped a lot. >> >> You forget your Wallet go back home to get it. Your voting office is >> supposed to be almost walking distance from your home. >> >> You don't want to be tracked? Nonsense. Most Americans have and use Credit >> Cards. >> >> There would be other ways on the day of elections including the affidavit >> method as well as querying personal info etc. You also have your Polling >> card which is mailed to you. With that you can go to Vote. >> >> None of the concerns and fears you mentioned seem to be actual problems. And >> when weighed against reducing or eliminating voter fraud, I think that >> reduction of fraud should take precedence. >> >> The only way that they can defraud voters at that point would be at the >> level of the government institutions themselves with issuing polling cards >> for dead persons etc. etc. >> >> On 22 June 2011 23:14, Gruss Gott <grussg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > I think that's all pretty reasonable. Why do Americans have problems with >>> > this? >>> > >>> >>> I personally can't get around the arbitrary nature of it. Examples: >>> >>> (1.) Your wallet was lost or stolen. Is it better for democracy to >>> silence your voice when all your family and friends know you're a >>> citizen? >>> >>> (2.) You forgot your wallet. Same as above. >>> >>> (3.) For whatever reason you decided you don't want to be forced to >>> have a government ID. You don't like having "papers", you don't like >>> the government tracking you, etc etc. Same question as above. >>> >>> While I get the "it's simple", "we need it for other stuff", "there >>> are other barriers" arguments, I can't make the leap to this: >>> >>> "Vivec had his wallet stolen yesterday so he can't take part in >>> democracy even if the Secretary of Homeland Security claims he's a >>> citizen." >>> >>> That seems stupid and arbitrary so I'm agin it. >>> >>> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:339272 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
