by the way, to clarify, as I understand it the problem is not so much tor
itself as the endpoints. I found this with the quick google that I had time
for:

https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea

but I think it goes beyond bittorrent. I am fairly certain that appelbaum
said something at defcon about endpoints in general. I heard this in the
press room, but it was probably the gist of his presentation that year (umm
2010?) if he was in the press room talking about it.

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that's been proven. If you're really interested I can
> probably find you a reference on that. It would be on the DEFCON site if
> you want to look yourself.
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:11 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Throw in some TOR IRC chats just to prove it's not secure.
>>
>> This is a great idea.
>>
>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions <
>> ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > It's all good people.  If you're not doing anything wrong, you have
>> > nothing
>> > > to worry about, right?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I say we start a stopwatch, buy a domain with a pre-paid credit card,
>> setup
>> > google hosted, a few email addresses like Mr Black, Mr White... A couple
>> > group addresses like New York, Chicago, LA… Start sharing docs on public
>> > transit and blueprints. Add in a few Ace hardware locations and shopping
>> > lists, place some cryptic calls over google chat while connecting though
>> > http://hidemyass.com/.
>> >
>> > How long do you think it would take for the NSA to raid your house?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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