well, this is 17, which I did not attend, but looks pretty relevant:

http://www.securitytube.net/video/3425

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:

> yeah that would be something they'd think about all right. They only
> question in my mind is "proven" vs "generally assumed".
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:41 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah I read something similar on an anonops wiki.
>>
>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > by the way, to clarify, as I understand it the problem is not so much
>> tor
>> > itself as the endpoints. I found this with the quick google that I had
>> time
>> > for:
>> >
>> > https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea
>> >
>> > but I think it goes beyond bittorrent. I am fairly certain that
>> appelbaum
>> > said something at defcon about endpoints in general. I heard this in the
>> > press room, but it was probably the gist of his presentation that year
>> (umm
>> > 2010?) if he was in the press room talking about it.
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm pretty sure that's been proven. If you're really interested I can
>> > > probably find you a reference on that. It would be on the DEFCON site
>> if
>> > > you want to look yourself.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:11 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> Throw in some TOR IRC chats just to prove it's not secure.
>> > >>
>> > >> This is a great idea.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website
>> Solutions
>> > <
>> > >> ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > It's all good people.  If you're not doing anything wrong, you
>> have
>> > >> > nothing
>> > >> > > to worry about, right?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I say we start a stopwatch, buy a domain with a pre-paid credit
>> card,
>> > >> setup
>> > >> > google hosted, a few email addresses like Mr Black, Mr White... A
>> > couple
>> > >> > group addresses like New York, Chicago, LA… Start sharing docs on
>> > public
>> > >> > transit and blueprints. Add in a few Ace hardware locations and
>> > shopping
>> > >> > lists, place some cryptic calls over google chat while connecting
>> > though
>> > >> > http://hidemyass.com/.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > How long do you think it would take for the NSA to raid your house?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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