Yeah...what you are missing is that you don't need to participate in it
because you are already covered.  This myth that keeps getting passed on by
the right about how this is going to cost companies is a bunch of
malarkey...to use Biden's phraseology.  If they are already providing
insurance for their employees, then they get tax breaks.  If they are under
50, I believe...I could be wrong on the number...they are not required to
provide insurance or pay a penalty.  So this BS about it hurting small
businesses is...well...BS.  According to a WSJ survey of small businesses,
small business owners overwhelmingly say that Obamacare is good for business
and it helps to make them more competitive...it would be even more so if we
had universal healthcare as that would the cost of company sponsored
healthcare out fo the hands of the companies.  You'd think that UHC would be
a favorite with republicans as it is very business friendly.

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-----Original Message-----
From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:06 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: These maps put GOP/Dem into a different perspective


Thanks for the link.

It says "individuals and employees of small businesses" are eligible for
exchanges. My company is huge. WHen i answer their questions, they tell me
my best option is to go with my company provided insurance plan.

It appears from this that I'm NOT as eligible for the exchanges as you
are....? Or am i missing something?


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Larry C. Lyons
<larrycly...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> You're eligible for the exchanges as much as I am. Seriously look 
> through healthcare.gov they give a pretty good explanation of what is 
> and what will be available.
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:52 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > are you in line to benefit from anything that goes into affect in 2014?
> > Because I'm pretty sure I'm not.
> >
> > I never really had any delusions that Obama Care would benefit me. I 
> > was just hoping that it wouldn't hurt me too much. So far, judging 
> > by this first set of new benefits for next year, it's hurting me quite a
bit.
> We'll
> > see what happens in 2014 and beyond. But basically, i'm being 
> > punished
> for
> > being gainfully employed and having previously existing, good 
> > insurance coverage that was company provided.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Larry C. Lyons 
> ><larrycly...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> That's because most of it doesn't kick in until next year. I pay 
> >> for my own health insurance, and the cost is more than ugly 
> >> (pre-existing condition). I am hoping I can reduce my costs once 
> >> the health care exchanges come into effect. But until then almost 
> >> 1000 a month goes to cover our heath care.
> >>
> >> But that said, the provisions that are now into effect are 
> >> benefiting people (coverage up to age 26, no rejection based on 
> >> preexisting conditions for instance). You may want to check 
> >> http://www.healthcare.gov/law/timeline/ for what is in effect now.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Sure, but I can't put any money on it.....i'm broke. And I just
> looked at
> >> > my health benefits for next year, if anyone in my family gets 
> >> > sick,
> I'll
> >> be
> >> > paying for a funeral too. *sigh*
> >> >
> >> > I sure hope ObamaCare is helping someone, because it's sure not
> helping
> >> me.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Larry C. Lyons <
> larrycly...@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Any bets on that?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I wouldn't worry too much.....the odds are good that we will 
> >> >> > have a Republican president in 2016.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://imgur.com/CpdW5
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Maybe this shouldn't have surprised me, but it did.
> >> >> >> And it's even more reason that I think we've seen the end of
> >> >> Republicans in
> >> >> >> the oval office for quite some time. Which is probably not a 
> >> >> >> good
> >> thing
> >> >> >> overall.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 



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