Really?

Not as good. Average age of death in Canada is lower, infant mortality
is lower.  A 2007 meta-analysis compared health outcomes in Canada and
the US in a Canadian peer-reviewed medical journal. The study found
that "health outcomes may be superior in patients cared for in Canada
versus the United States, but differences are not consistent."
http://www.openmedicine.ca/article/view/8/1

Then again you can look at price of medication (cheaper in Canada btw)
- or why do you think all those seniors are trying to smuggle their
meds across the border regularly.



On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:46 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd argue, and from personal experience, that Canada's health care system
> is not as good or as responsive as our own.
>
> I have an idea, you want 100% health care.  Bring back mandetory
> conscription across the board.
> On Feb 14, 2013 1:43 PM, "Eric Roberts" <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> That is very untrue G.  You can go to the ER, but the ER dose not provide
>> meds if you can't afford them because you have no insurance and have to pay
>> full price.  ER's just treat the immediate issue.  If you have a chronic
>> illness and have no insurance, you are fucked.  Not all areas have charity
>> health care systems.  People with money don't die because they can't afford
>> healthcare...Period.  Healthcare systems in Canada, the UK, Scandanavia,
>> and
>> Germany have shown to be very effective.  If you think people in the
>> insurance industry care if you live or die, you are smoking some good shit.
>> They have whole departments that dedicated to finding ways to deny claims
>> so
>> you can't afford to get treatment so they can make a higher profit.  That
>> is
>> fact...not hyperbole.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:27 AM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
>>
>>
>> A lot of Americans WITH money die.
>>
>> This scenario often painted of Americans lying outside hospital doors and
>> dying on their doorsteps because they've been turned away, is a bit of a
>> hyperbole. Yes, the question of adequate health care for low or no income
>> citizens is a problem....it's a problem EVERYWHERE.....but the American
>> system is no more or less devoid of it's moral imperative to care for it's
>> citizens than any other country. There is no big bad group of people in
>> this
>> country who just want to see poor people die and go away.
>>
>> There are genuine differences in ideas about the best way to get the best
>> care to the most amount of people for the least amount of cost. People who
>> oppose the Affordable Care Act are NOT uncaring monsters.....they are
>> people
>> with genuine concerns...and there are a LOT of them.
>>
>> History has shown us that giving everything to everyone simply doesn't
>> work...conversely, relying solely on "the market" to take adequate care of
>> everyone, is equally flawed because you just can't view people as
>> "commodities".
>>
>> Statements like "yeah, it really sucks that you still die in America if you
>> don't have enough money" may get you high fives as your next vegan lunch
>> date, but it's somewhat petty and myopicw hen you consider the reality.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Yeah. It really sucks that you still die in America if you don't have
>> > enough money.
>> >
>> > The US should look at the Scandinavian states and try to emulate them.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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