I'd love to see any business in the US function as a wholly private
industry.  Even big oil requires corporate welfare.
Retail stores like Wal-mart would never survive without the subsidies and
tax breaks as well as other perks they strong arm out of municipalities.
If you want to talk about companies making it as privately funded
businesses...lets talk about all of them.

Eric


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> "Elon Musk has actually talked about this quite a bit. Tesla is doing
> everything
> it can to bring the price down and make this a real market, even sharing
> some of their technology with other companies to try to encourage a bigger
> market to develop."
>
> Like lobbying for more subsidies or even suing for subsidies.  Yes, that's
> right.  Suing for subsidies. See solarcity, another one of Musk's projects
> that is under investigation for fraud and is suing for more money.
>
>
> "Musk's claim is that in any new product or industry, you start by
> producing
> a small number of very expensive things and then over time as you refine
> the process you learn to make more and more of them at a cheaper price."
>
> Wow.  Manufacturing 101.  What a sharp guy.
>
>
> "His plan is to bring a much cheaper car to market in the next few years."
>
> As long as the taxpayers fund it, I am sure he will.
>
>
> Some finishing notes on Musk:
>
> In 2009 and 2010, SolarCity spent $535,000 lobbying Congress and the DOE on
> climate legislation, the Recovery Act, and various solar legislation. From
> 2007 to 2011, Tesla Motors spent $480,000 lobbying Congress, the White
> House, EPA and DOE on climate and energy issues, the Advanced Technology
> Vehicles Manufacturing loan program, the Promoting Electric Vehicles Act,
> and the Recovery Act.
>
> From 2008 through 2012, Musk gave $290,000 to political candidates and
> parties including $35,800 to the Obama Victory Fund, $66,200 to the
> Democratic National Committee, $63,500 to the National Republican
> Congressional Committee, and $34,400 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign
> Committee. A former Tesla director, Steve Westly, raised hundreds of
> thousands of dollars as a bundler for both
> 2008<http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/bundlers.php?id=N00009638>
>  and 2012 <http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/bundlers.php> Obama
> presidential campaigns.
>
> http://www.examiner.com/article/tessla-s-musk-loves-green-subsidies-but-buys-17-million-mansion
>
> Gee, wonder why they so much funding?
>
>
>
> Let me say that I would love to see Tesla succeed as a privately funded
> enterprise.  I'd love to see their cars sell without the benefits of
> subsidies.
>
>
> J
>
> -
>
> The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the
> name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist
> program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing
> how it happened. -Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential
> candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
>
> 

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