I don't disagree with anything you wrote.

The questions for me are more about the middle species and missing link.
On Jan 2, 2014 4:01 PM, "Judah McAuley" <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote:

>
> Which parts of evolution do you consider not proven facts?  One of the big
> problems with the word "evolution" is that many people mean different
> things when they use the word, so I never know what someone thinks has or
> has not been proven.
>
> I'll go for a fairly simple definition of evolution, starting with Darwin.
>
> It was recognized long before Darwin that species change over time. Every
> dog breeder knows that species change. They also know that those changes
> can be adaptive (short legs for tunnel hunting dogs, long shaggy coats for
> winter dogs, etc). Nothing in those notions was new at the time of Darwin.
>
> What Darwin proposed that was novel was pretty much right there in the
> title of his book: "On the origin of species by means of natural
> selection".  He proposed that new species arose from old species and that
> old species went extinct. And that the means of the creation of new species
> and the demise of old species was differential survival of individuals with
> characteristics favored by their  (often changing) environment and that
> those characteristics can be passed on to the offspring, creating diverging
> paths of development and the creation of new species.
>
> The biggest argument to the contrary, at the time, was that characteristics
> of species could change over time (a small value of evolution) but could
> not give rise to new species. This was primarily driven by biblical
> literalism, that God created the Heavens and the Earth and all the species
> that walk the earth and swim the seas and was ordered just so. This view is
> incompatible with a system of evolution that allows for the creation of new
> species that did not exist at the time of creation.
>
> Now, then, onto the facts.
>
> #1: Speciation occurs.  This is an observed fact. Existing species die off.
> New species arise.  The variety of ways in which speciation occurs and even
> the most useful definition of species are areas of debate and research.
> Speciation still occurs.
>
> #2: Natural selection occurs. This is also an observed fact. There is
> differential survival of species members based on phenotype (what
> characteristics the individual possesses).
>
> #3: Characteristics that natural selection acts upon are heritable. This is
> also an observed fact. More efficient mechanisms for using water in an arid
> environment, for example, can be passed down to future generations and have
> a differential effect upon the survival of those offspring.
>
> That, in a nutshell, is Darwinian evolution and there are generations of
> scientific documentation of all of the above items. It is real, plain and
> simple, and well established and tested.
>
> Now, there are a whole bunch of things that are awesome open questions and
> things that challenge established notions. The field of Epigenetics alone
> is causing me to rethinking some views I have about where the level(s) of
> natural selection work, how they interplay, what role genes versus
> environment have, all sorts of stuff. It is exciting. But it does nothing
> to change the validity of the items I list above.
>
> Cheers,
> Judah
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Timothy Heald <timothy.he...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > Or that you don't.
> >
> > Simply put it's not a proven fact.
> >
>
>
> 

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