Bullshit Tim.  You have only been experiencing the VA for a couple of years.
I first started going to the VA when Clinton was in office.  I saw firsthand
how it nosedived from day one of the Bush Administration and it fell
deep...much like our economy fell deep thanks to him.  Not only did Bush
rape the funding for the VA, which would have caused some problems on their
own, with the introduction of 2 wars, he also exponentially increased the
number of people relying on the VA for services.  Add to that the rape of
the economy which added even more burden to the VA, I am surprised we get as
good of a service as we do out of the VA.  Quit whining that you are getting
denied shit because you broke the law.  While I disagree with pot being
illegal...if you want to break the law and use it anyway, then that is on
you and you alone.  Take responsibility for your own actions.  You are not
prohibited by law from maintaining gainful employment.  You will lose some
of the free benefits if you reach a certain income level.  You are not being
denied shit.  I am also going to call bullshit on being denied medical care.
You cannot be refused medical care.  That is illegal.  All veterans are
eligible for care at the VA...you do not have to be rated or disabled.  The
scale it based on whether or not you are disabled and sevice connected and
if not, then it is based on income on what you have to pay as far as copays
for visits and prescriptions.


Eric

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Only eight of those years are thanks to Bush.

If you don't want the job don't apply for it.  We're pretty deep into the
second term to still be blaming the last guy.

You are taking out your ass about the VA.

While the health care issues are regional, due to the way the VA is
organized, the problems on the benefits (VBA) side are equally insane, with
huge backlogs and major civil rights violations all over.

The surveys themselves are conducted internally, I have no faith in them
what so ever, this organization is riddled with inefficiency and corruption.

The rules are totally different for us, forever.  Your HIPPA protections
don't exist for us.  Our 4th and 5th amendment rights basically don't exist,
our private medical information, including therapy notes and shit, is freely
shared with federal law enforcement, without a warrant.  My property has
been stolen, without a warrant, my home searched, with out a warrant.

I've been detained multiple times.  Local officers have lied to my neighbors
and told them I have warrants, but I haven't even been accused of a crime.

I'm prohibited by law from "maintaining gainful employment" because I'm too
nutty to work, bit I'm denied ssdi based off doctors records that I smoke
pot.  So I don't get half of what I'm supposed to, and now in even being
refused medical care for staph and MRSA because my doctor screwed up my meds
and appointments, and lied in my record to cover her mistake.

It takes an average of 45-60 to see your primary care doctor here, longer to
get to a specialist, but you can't be scrolled for the specialist without a
referral from primary care, so you're looking at a four month minimum wait
to see a specialist.

Something a lot of outsiders miss is that the VA is scaled.  The vast
majority of people who have earned it don't use it, even those who do use it
mainly use it as part of their health care, and aren't rated and disabled at
all.

The real problems in the system begin when you are rated at 30% and they
start becoming involved in every aspect of your life.

The clinics are well funded, the medical staff is mainly top notch, with the
exception of the many foreign doctors, who often do not have the empathy and
cultural awareness this situation requires, and lack a respect for the
special nature if their customer base.  The main problem on the health care
side is in administrators.

The VA is the epitome of a federal bureaucracy run amok.  The administrators
are bitter, entitled, king term government employees who know how hard it is
to get fired.  It often seems add though there job is denial of services,
and it is.  This is an attitude that was fostered after Vietnam die to large
scale fraud by veterans and liars that has since been stamped out.  Now it
serves to save them money.

Many veterans refuse to use VA health care it other benefits due to the
Times and difficulties involved, and the impacts on the individual.  For
many years it's seemed like this has been a coordinated effort.

Christ the evil deranged domestic terrorist combat veteran is now a media
talking point, even if a statistical anomaly.




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