On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I understand you were saying what-if. > And in doing so you compared a grown adult to a child. >
No I wasn't. I never compared an adult to a child. No matter how you slice it, I did not do that. > > You did that , not me. That's all I was pointing out to you. I understand > the point you were trying to make. And I think it was irrelevant, UNLESS you were comparing an adult to a 12 > year old child, at which point I thought it was a belittling comparison. > > *"With the disclaimer that I am not a qualified medical professional, I > think* > *she is in an abusive relationship. "* > > And that right there is where we part ways with agreeing. > Because you do not have enough information to make that determination. > I have experience dealing with victims of abuse. Do you? If you are right, what happens? They continue to be millionaires (assuming they did not piss away the $25 million he has already made from the Ravens). If you are right, he will likely be reinstated by the NFL and signed to a team. If I am right, she will wind up in the hospital or the morgue. Should we not error on the side of caution? > > And we are not talking about all domestic disputes, we not talking about > all women that abuse their husbands, or all husbands that abuse their > wives. > We are talking about this single isolated incident. > > Anything else you say is pure and total speculation on your part regarding > these two people. > And that speculation does neither of them any favours, and isn't "Good". > > If tomorrow evidence comes out that this is an ongoing abuse either by him > or by her in their relationship, I'd be the first to say you are right, she > needs to get out and everything else that you have said. > But as of now, you don't know. You and everyone else is speculating. > So, hit her once, get a pass. Hit her again...now we have a problem? > > And by doing so you are basically saying that woman is crazy, she is not in > control of her faculties, and so you, TMZ, the Media and the Public get to > make decisions for her, and get to decide what is right for her. > So, your solution is to do nothing until he hits her again? What if the next time he does permanent and/or fatal damage? I resent the implication that I am saying she is 'crazy' because I think she is involved in an abusive relationship, and goes to further my opinion that you have never had any kind of experience with anyone in an abusive relationship. > > Let me flip it. Based on what I saw, I think she abuses Rice, and that Ray > Rice is in an abusive relationship. And he snapped in that elevator. > He was drunk, she was drunk....she came at him again like she always does, > cussing and shouting at him, and slapping him around...and he snapped. > How's that? You sound even more like Rick. If that is truly how you feel, I am disappointed. > > On 10 September 2014 10:51, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I did not say she was a child, I was playing the 'what if; game that Rick > > was so keen on playing to see when the victim is no longer to blame for > > getting hit. > > > > You then turned around and made the inference that I was saying all women > > are like children. > > > > With the disclaimer that I am not a qualified medical professional, I > think > > she is in an abusive relationship. That abuse may not always be physical, > > but abuse need not be physical to be damaging. I have seen, more times > than > > I care to remember, people who defend their abusers and blame everyone > else > > for the problem - and this includes men who were being abused. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372387 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
