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Douglas Brown Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harkins,Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision > ummm that was Howie's idea of humor or as we call it here in Canada... > humour! > Douglas you get the booby prize! :-) > > Patrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:11 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision > > > So who here is under investigation? > > "Carnivore is a computer-based system that is designed to allow the FBI, in > cooperation with an Internet Service Provider (ISP), to comply with court > orders requiring the collection of certain information about emails or other > electronic communications to or from (a specific user targeted in an > investigation.)" > > > > > Douglas Brown > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision > > > > I figured it out....We are under a damn microscope here!!! > > > > Carnivore version 3.6b7 > > http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/carnivore-faq.html > > > > > > > > > > Douglas Brown > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:55 PM > > Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision > > > > > > > What the heck is this? > > > > > > ---=== Carnivore version 3.6b7 Alert Status 6d3fc ===--- > > > --- System alert; message intercepted at 15:29 16 Aug 2002 --- > > > --- Message scan alert level 8 (v014) --- > > > --- Detailed status: Message contains anti-Ashcroft text --- > > > --- Recommended action: detail indefinitlely --- > > > --- EOT --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Douglas Brown > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "William H. Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:51 PM > > > Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision > > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. Bill of Rights states that "All men are created equal", > > > > > > > > ummm, actually that is the Declaration of Independence. > > > > > > > > http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html > > > > > > > > not the US Constitution (Bill of Rights or otherwise) > > > > > > > > http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.text.html > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > will > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > William H. Bowen > > > > Webmaster > > > > > > > > ALSTOM's T&D Energy Automation & Information Business > > > > > > > > "Your friendly neighborhood Webmaster!" > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://www.esca.com/ > > > > > > > > 425.739.3629 Voice > > > > 425.466.7016 Cell > > > > 425.739.3690 FAX > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:25 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision > > > > > > > > > > > > > The U.S. Bill of Rights states that "All men are created equal", and > is > > > > the > > > > > cornerstone of the U.S. Constitution. It is my opinion that _any_ > > person, > > > > > U.S. citizen or not, should be protected by the Constitution when > tried > > of > > > > a > > > > > crime in or against the U.S by a U.S. court, military or otherwise. > To > > do > > > > > any less is to completely disregard the Constitution and makes a > mockery > > > > of > > > > > the principles upon which our Nation was founded. > > > > > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:17 PM > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok here is my spin on this. If a citizenof the US was deemed a > > > > > > combatant, then > > > > > > he should be "Found Guilty" of being a combatant by a jury of > > > > > > his/her peers. > > > > > > If he/she is found guilty of such a charge, then by all means > > > > > > they do not need > > > > > > liberties. We do not give middle eastern combatants liberties, > > > > > > and therefore > > > > > > no matter where you are born, if you are againt the US you can > > > > > > just suffer "If > > > > > > you are found guilty". As far as the government being the one to > > > > > > decide this, > > > > > > I think that is simply ludicrous and everyone would be a > > > > > > combatant if they had > > > > > > their way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Douglas Brown > > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:58 AM > > > > > > Subject: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for U.S. > > > > > > citizens he > > > > > > deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him > > > > > > > from merely being a political embarrassment to being a > > constitutional > > > > > > menace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashcroft's plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, > > > > > > would allow him > > > > > > to order the indefinite incarceration of > > > > > > > U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their constitutional > > > > > > rights and > > > > > > access to the courts by declaring them enemy > > > > > > > combatants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The proposed camp plan should trigger immediate congressional > > > > > > hearings and > > > > > > reconsideration of Ashcroft's fitness for > > > > > > > this important office. Whereas Al Qaeda is a threat to the lives > of > > > > our > > > > > > citizens, Ashcroft has become a clear and > > > > > > > present threat to our liberties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-turley14aug14.story > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists