Boobie.........I like boobies :-) What do i get?



Douglas Brown
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Harkins,Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision


> ummm that was Howie's idea of humor or as we call it here in Canada...
> humour!
> Douglas you get the booby prize! :-)
>
> Patrick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:11 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
>
>
> So who here is under investigation?
>
> "Carnivore is a computer-based system that is designed to allow the FBI, in
> cooperation with an Internet Service Provider (ISP), to comply with court
> orders requiring the collection of certain information about emails or other
> electronic communications to or from (a specific user targeted in an
> investigation.)"
>
>
>
>
> Douglas Brown
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
>
>
> > I figured it out....We are under a damn microscope here!!!
> >
> > Carnivore version 3.6b7
> > http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/carnivore-faq.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Douglas Brown
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> >
> >
> > > What the heck is this?
> > >
> > > ---===  Carnivore version 3.6b7 Alert Status 6d3fc ===---
> > > --- System alert; message intercepted at 15:29 16 Aug 2002  ---
> > > --- Message scan alert level 8 (v014) ---
> > > --- Detailed status: Message contains anti-Ashcroft text ---
> > > --- Recommended action: detail indefinitlely ---
> > > --- EOT ---
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Douglas Brown
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "William H. Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> > >
> > >
> > > > > The U.S. Bill of Rights states that "All men are created equal",
> > > >
> > > > ummm, actually that is the Declaration of Independence.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html
> > > >
> > > > not the US Constitution (Bill of Rights or otherwise)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.text.html
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > >
> > > > will
> > > > ----
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > > http://www.esca.com/
> > > >
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> > > > 425.739.3690 FAX
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:25 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The U.S. Bill of Rights states that "All men are created equal", and
> is
> > > > the
> > > > > cornerstone of the U.S. Constitution. It is my opinion that _any_
> > person,
> > > > > U.S. citizen or not, should be protected by the Constitution when
> tried
> > of
> > > > a
> > > > > crime in or against the U.S by a U.S. court, military or otherwise.
> To
> > do
> > > > > any less is to completely disregard the Constitution and makes a
> mockery
> > > > of
> > > > > the principles upon which our Nation was founded.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:17 PM
> > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok here is my spin on this. If a citizenof the US was deemed a
> > > > > > combatant, then
> > > > > > he should be "Found Guilty" of being a combatant by a jury of
> > > > > > his/her peers.
> > > > > > If he/she is found guilty of such a charge, then by all means
> > > > > > they do not need
> > > > > > liberties. We do not give middle eastern combatants liberties,
> > > > > > and therefore
> > > > > > no matter where you are born, if you are againt the US you can
> > > > > > just suffer "If
> > > > > > you are found guilty". As far as the government being the one to
> > > > > > decide this,
> > > > > > I think that is simply ludicrous and everyone would be a
> > > > > > combatant if they had
> > > > > > their way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Douglas Brown
> > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:58 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for U.S.
> > > > > > citizens he
> > > > > > deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him
> > > > > > > from merely being a political embarrassment to being a
> > constitutional
> > > > > > menace.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ashcroft's plan, disclosed last week but little publicized,
> > > > > > would allow him
> > > > > > to order the indefinite incarceration of
> > > > > > > U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their constitutional
> > > > > > rights and
> > > > > > access to the courts by declaring them enemy
> > > > > > > combatants.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The proposed camp plan should trigger immediate congressional
> > > > > > hearings and
> > > > > > reconsideration of Ashcroft's fitness for
> > > > > > > this important office. Whereas Al Qaeda is a threat to the lives
> of
> > > > our
> > > > > > citizens, Ashcroft has become a clear and
> > > > > > > present threat to our liberties.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-turley14aug14.story
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> 
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