no 'pologies! actually you're more right than wrong we don't do guilt in the sense you and the film were referring to.
BTW another bit of knowledge - the eve of Yom Kippur is called "Kol Nidre" which means "All Vows". Back in the time of the Spanish Inquisition, many Jews were faced with choosing between torture/death and converting to Catholicism. We have a tradition where you don't feel guilty for not fulfilling vows made under duress. We even have an "out" if you have made a good-faith effort to fulfill a vow and can't. -Ben > Thanks for the clarification, I'll remember that. > (That's what I get for quoting stoopid pop culture references ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 6:49 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement > > Kevin, > > you said: > > <snip> > > Reminds me of that flick Keeping the Faith where Ben Stiller's rabbi > > character says to his priest buddy, "I'm a Jew, we don't do the guilt > > thing." > > Actually, we do (guilt) - but differently. > > Catholics confess individually, privately, specifically to > errors of omission or comission. > > On Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement), Jews confess collectively, > publically, and generically. We basically go through an > alphabetical litany of all the sins/failings we humans may > commit, whether we are aware of them or not, and atone for any > we may have done. BTW "atone" comes from "at one" as with God. > > -Ben > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:51 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement > > > > Hmmm...Not to be knockin someones religion, but if I am not mistaken > the > > bible says..."He that add to or taketh away from the book of god, > shall > > have > > his name removed from the book of life" If I were being led to believe > > that I > > am guilty of "mans" sins by a priest or preacher who has simply > > determined > > his/her own set of sins, I would leave!!! And it would be quick. > > > > > > > > > > Douglas Brown > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 9:54 AM > > Subject: Re: The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement > > > > > > > I think you're missing the point. > > > > > > There are a lot of doctrines in the Catholic Church > > > which come from the Vatican, not a line of scripture, > > > but devout members of the church still consider > > > themselves bound by them. > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > Well if they want to take religion into question as far as being a > > sin, I > > > > would love to see a catholic show me a scripture from the bible > that > > says > > > > "Thou shall not spill thy seed into a prophylactic" :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Douglas Brown > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:46 AM > > > > Subject: Re: The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement > > > > > > > > > > > > > Douglas- > > > > > > > > > > you are forgetting an important point, sir - > > > > > > > > > > these people from "over the border" are for the most > > > > > part devout Catholics. > > > > > > > > > > re: birth control - can you say "sin" ?? > > > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > I live in Southern California, and cannot believe the amount > of > > people > > > > having > > > > > > between 6 & 10 kids...most of which are from over the border. > > These > > > > people > > > > > > are like dogs in heat, can they not think of anything better > to > > do? > > Do > > > > they > > > > > > not know what birth control is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Douglas Brown > > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Jacob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:19 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am for it.. How about Mandatory Human Extinction > > Movement.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certain people will fall under that category. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.mhemt.org (note: site does not exist.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 11:01 AM 9/3/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > > > >http://www.vhemt.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Uh, ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
