I agree with you totally.  Murder us murder.  But why do you think there are
degrees for murder?  1st, 2nd, 3rd.  I would call this manslaughter-type
abuse.  But not abuse.  It was in the heat of the moment thingy.  It wasn't
sinister, that she planned on hurting the child.

And there you admit you get pissed at your kids too.  Some people just can't
control it and they resort to beating something.  And they have to learn to
control it more.


-----Original Message-----
From: Critter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 7:26 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re[2]: What a crock


oi Phoeun!!

PP> It was a big mistake for the mom, but I wouldn't call it abuse.  She'll
just
PP> have to learn to control her temper more.


You  wouldn't  call  it  abuse?  WTF would you call it?? I honestly doubt
that was the first time it
happened, and even if it was, who gives a shit. she beat her kid, she did
not just slap her. That is
abuse.  Temper my ass. I've got a temper. I fly off at the drop of a hat,
and yes I get pissed at my
kids  too,  but I'll be damned if I'm going to beat the shit out of them. We
are here to PROTECT our
children, not hurt them!!

--
Critz
 Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
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Monday, September 23, 2002, 2:55:05 PM, you wrote:

PP> It was a big mistake for the mom, but I wouldn't call it abuse.  She'll
just
PP> have to learn to control her temper more.  I get pissed like that
sometimes
PP> as well, but I learn to control it.  It's all about control.  we all
want to
PP> beat the crap out of our kids sometimes.  We love em that much :)

PP> But yes, it was horrible what happened.  I want to spank the mom. :-D


PP> -----Original Message-----
PP> From: Critter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
PP> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 1:08 PM
PP> To: CF-Community
PP> Subject: What a crock


PP> oi ,!!

PP>
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/09/23/video.child.beating/index.html


>> She said she "was horrified and sick to my stomach and mortified" when
she
PP> saw the tape of her striking her child.
PP>   guess   it's  just  ok  that  she does it and not actually see's what
it
PP> looks like, can't imagine
PP>   that's the first time that little girl was beat like that.

>> Though her husband is supporting her, the couple would be willing to
PP> separate if that means he can get custody of Martha, Toogood said Sunday
in
PP> an interview with CNN.
PP>   Willing to separate??!! I would have had papers handed to her at her
PP> booking.

PP>   Although, I'd throw the father's ass in jail too. Like I said I don't
PP> think it was the first time,
PP>   and i'm sure he knew of his wife's screwed up temper.


>> Toogood said her daughter "never had a mark on her," but she said she had
PP> a message for other parents.
>>
>> "Don't raise your hand to a child. It ain't worth it."

PP> What  a crock of shit. There's a difference between disciplining a child
and
PP> beating the shit out of
PP> them.

PP> I  hope  she  Never gets her kids back, and on top of that I hope she
goes
PP> to jail and gets the shit
PP> beat out of her


PP> Critz
PP> an angry father


PP>

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